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by Dave2
Tue Apr 23, 2013 6:31 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Thoughts on Manchin-Toomey Amendment
Replies: 27
Views: 3339

Re: Thoughts on Manchin-Toomey Amendment

terryg wrote:But don't imply that the bill, as written, would create a registry or that it would require checks on transfers between friends and family.
As written, it wouldn't. But when was the last time a law was passed that nobody ever tried to twist? Stop trusting the government so much.
by Dave2
Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:40 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Thoughts on Manchin-Toomey Amendment
Replies: 27
Views: 3339

Re: Thoughts on Manchin-Toomey Amendment

terryg wrote:
Dave2 wrote: I'm under the impression that the ATF effectively already has the authority to force all relevant transactions at guns shows to go through an FFL
I am not aware that this is the case.
It had something to with sanctioning events that did or didn't allow non-dealers to participate, depending or if "sanctioned" is a good or bad thing in this context (really, could english get any more confusing?).
terryg wrote:
Dave2 wrote:... and you already have to go through an FFL to sell a gun online.
But you don't have to go through an FFL to advertise online and make a FTF transaction with a stranger.
Of course not. It's a private, face-to-face transaction unless one of you is a dealer.
by Dave2
Tue Apr 23, 2013 12:11 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Thoughts on Manchin-Toomey Amendment
Replies: 27
Views: 3339

Re: Thoughts on Manchin-Toomey Amendment

terryg wrote:It required background checks (just like federally licensed sellers) for all who sell firearms at gun shows or over the internet.
I'm under the impression that the ATF effectively already has the authority to force all relevant transactions at guns shows to go through an FFL, and you already have to go through an FFL to sell a gun online. One provision is already unwanted both by republicans (as evidenced by their vote) and democrats (as evidenced by the Obama administration's unwilling to act through the ATF), and the other is redundant. Why should it pass? What good does it do to require something nobody wants and everyone thinks will be ineffective?

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