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by Dave2
Thu Feb 07, 2013 11:13 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?
Replies: 45
Views: 6239

Re: Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?

SF18C wrote:Pistols are only to fight your way back to your rifle! All you would ever need is a mag or two.

Besides a personal box of hollow points don't cost that much!
I don't think they're allowed to use HP ammo regardless of how they obtained it.
by Dave2
Sat Jan 12, 2013 3:01 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?
Replies: 45
Views: 6239

Re: Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?

G26ster wrote:
CC Italian wrote:Both of them said the only time someone used an m9 was when there rifle or shotgun malfunctioned. One even described the M9 as useful as a door stop!
I need a recent combat vet to school me on the "current" military (Army/Marine) policy on weapons issue. Back in the "olden days," from which my experience comes, pistols were not issued to everyone in the combat arms. For example, if you were a "rifleman" you carried the current battle rifle of the day, and no pistol. If you were a "heavy weapons" type that carried a light machine gun or part of a crew served weapon crew, you had a pistol. Support personnel usually had pistols or rifles dependent on duty position. When did the military begin issuing a rifle and a pistol to an individual soldier? I'm, not addressing special ops personnel, but rather the infantry type who are deployed in combat operations.
Dunno what the current practice is, but I think if I were in infantry, I'd want a pistol only as a backup gun -- in case my rifle was broken/stolen/etc -- and I think only with maybe two or three full magazines (including the one in the gun). Or maybe their packs are already so heavy that they regret the weight of their own sweat... I don't know.
by Dave2
Sat Jan 12, 2013 2:06 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?
Replies: 45
Views: 6239

Re: Army likely to "Dump" 9MM for 40s&w or 45's?

Beiruty wrote:The new pistol caliber should be the new 5.7x28mm. Give a new 5.7 to each GI.

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That'd be fantastic for the platform and the round (and for me, since it'd drive costs down and I want one). If the 9mm's problem is that it doesn't make big enough holes (remember, they can't use hollow-point ammo), how does dropping down to 5.7mm help? Is it really that much faster?

I'll be disappointed if it's not at least considered, though. Our troops deserve the best we can afford, and the Five-seveN is at the very least an interesting platform.

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