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by Warhammer
Tue Nov 16, 2010 10:24 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Frisco Library/City Hall posted
Replies: 19
Views: 3661

Re: Frisco Library/City Hall posted

C-dub wrote:
Warhammer wrote: So even if they HAD gotten the 30.06 signs right, and even if it IS for a government meeting, the signs would be inapplicable because the property is owned or leased by the city.
I was with you up until this statement. Where else are governmental meetings held, but government property? However, I think the actual meeting room is the only thing off limits and not the entire building.

My only question is what constitutes a "meeting?" Does two people getting together qualify as a meeting that cold prohibit a CHL from carrying? Supposing they would also properly post a 30.06 sign.

Section 30.06 explicitly states that the entire section is not applicable to buildings owned or leased by a goverment. It does not differentiate individual rooms within said buildings. Now, if the meeting was being held at the VFW, or at a church, or a convention center, or a hotel auditorium, or a performance hall, or a home... then a correct 30.06 sign would bar a CHL from carrying in the meeting.
by Warhammer
Tue Nov 16, 2010 5:43 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Frisco Library/City Hall posted
Replies: 19
Views: 3661

Re: Frisco Library/City Hall posted

However, Texas PC 46.035 subsection (i) states:
(i) Subsections (b)(4), (b)(5), (b)(6), and (c) do not apply if the actor was not given effective notice under Section 30.06.
So subsection (c), which talks about government meetings, does not apply without proper 30.06 notice.

And section 30.06 explicitly states that:
(3) "Written communication" means:

(A) a card or other document on which is written language identical to the following: "Pursuant to Section 30.06, Penal Code (trespass by holder of license to carry a concealed handgun), a person licensed under Subchapter H, Chapter 411, Government Code (concealed handgun law), may not enter this property with a concealed handgun"; or

(B) a sign posted on the property that:

(i) includes the language described by Paragraph (A) in both English and Spanish;

(ii) appears in contrasting colors with block letters at least one inch in height; and

(iii) is displayed in a conspicuous manner clearly visible to the public.
Since the signs in the pics display different language than that which is required by 30.06, they are invalid, and written notice has not been given.

Beyond that, 30.06 also states:
(e) It is an exception to the application of this section that the property on which the license holder carries a handgun is owned or leased by a governmental entity and is not a premises or other place on which the license holder is prohibited from carrying the handgun under Section 46.03 or 46.035.
So even if they HAD gotten the 30.06 signs right, and even if it IS for a government meeting, the signs would be inapplicable because the property is owned or leased by the city.

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