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by Jumping Frog
Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:00 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban
Replies: 34
Views: 1949

Re: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban

sjfcontrol wrote:39 Code of Federal Regulation (CFR) Part §232 & §232.1 - Conduct on Postal Property
Thanks for saving me the effort. :thumbs2:
by Jumping Frog
Thu Jan 30, 2014 7:03 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban
Replies: 34
Views: 1949

Re: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban

The Annoyed Man wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote: Do you realize if you get caught, you are facing a $50 fine?
For a parking lot infraction, or an inside the building infraction? Are there no other liabilities attached?
TAM, I am not able to search as effectively on my phone. It will take a day or two to find this regulation and its penalty again, but I'll come back and post the actual text.

As I recall, it is a $50 fine plus "up to 30 days", which is the most minor offense in the USPS system. The reg does not distinguish between buildings and grounds.

There are some states, like Ohio, where the state offense is more severe that the USPS one. In Ohio, being armed anywhere that is forbidden under federal law is a severe Ohio felony. We don't have that issue in Texas. :txflag:
by Jumping Frog
Wed Jan 29, 2014 9:51 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban
Replies: 34
Views: 1949

Re: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban

A-R wrote:It's not the ban on carrying a gun INTO the USPS that lights my fire, it's the ban on possessing a gun in a USPS parking lot that :mad5 :mad5 :mad5

Having to choose between going unarmed for the entire trip OR parking across the street and carrying an armful of packages is an unnecessary choice to put on those exercising their 2A rights.
Do you realize if you get caught, you are facing a $50 fine?
by Jumping Frog
Wed Jan 29, 2014 7:59 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban
Replies: 34
Views: 1949

Re: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban

chasfm11 wrote:
Jumping Frog wrote:Never pass the Senate. Introducing the bill is all show, no substance.
Perhaps you are correct. But I've often faulted the GOP for not taking the battles to the Dems and for letting the Dems control the agenda. As much as there are anti-gun legislators, there are some others in Red States who could cost themselves an election by voting against this bill or a similar one covering the Corps of Engineers property.
This bill will never even come up for a vote. It is DOA. That is why I view it as all show and no substance.

Now, I agree with the point about the GOP needs to have more of a backbone on matters of principle. However, elections have consequences and this bill getting stuffed in a back room closet never to see the light of day is one of those consequences.
by Jumping Frog
Tue Jan 28, 2014 2:07 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban
Replies: 34
Views: 1949

Re: Rand Paul bill to remove post office gun ban

Never pass the Senate. Introducing the bill is all show, no substance.

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