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Dragonfighter wrote:

Jumping Frog wrote:<SNIP> I'd like to point out that anyone promoting the idea of shooting police officers trying to make an arrest is a clear non-starter in my book. The time to discuss whether an arrest was legal or not is in the courtroom, not out there facing a gun muzzle.

I suppose one could theoretically argue about a hypothetical corrupt police squad where the person truly thinks they will be killed or quietly "disappear" before ever making it to jail, but we are still the United States, not the cartel-owned and corrupt Mexico. In the United States, 99.9999999999999% of arrests should be battled in the courtroom.

Maybe the time to argue is in the undisclosed location where you are being held without charges and indefinitely.

I think that falls under the 'quietly "disappear"' portion of my statement.

I am not naive and realize we could see those days. But today, at least, even the ones being held under the "Patriot" Act are still a miniscule percentage of total arrests.

It's important to note that when the officers came to arrest Bad Elk he had broken no law and there was no warrant for his arrest. Resisting officers who came to confiscate your weapons with warrants in hand, while clearly unconstitutional, would not be the same fact pattern as the Bad Elk case, and you would have serious problems defending your actions in courts which would clearly recognize the unconstitutional law as legitimate.

Moving past the Holiday Inn, I'd like to point out that anyone promoting the idea of shooting police officers trying to make an arrest is a clear non-starter in my book. The time to discuss whether an arrest was legal or not is in the courtroom, not out there facing a gun muzzle.

I suppose one could theoretically argue about a hypothetical corrupt police squad where the person truly thinks they will be killed or quietly "disappear" before ever making it to jail, but we are still the United States, not the cartel-owned and corrupt Mexico. In the United States, 99.9999999999999% of arrests should be battled in the courtroom.