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CoffeeNut wrote:John Wayne was an actor and frankly not a very good one (my opinion) and while he set a standard for a generation it doesn't mean he'd act that way in an environment so chaotic such as mall shooting. I can go play Green Beret but it doesn't mean I have the skills of a Green Beret. This guy was scared yet he was still aware enough to know that he didn't have a shot if his story is true so in my opinion he was in the right because he judged the situation and took an action that after the fact he was able to determine was appropriate. Sure he might be more "feminine" than those from 1950 but keep in mind that in 1950 CHL was for mostly if not entirely LE only.

So I see you missed my point.

For everyone wanting to pile on barstoolguru, I suspect part of this is generational differences.

People who are born in the mid-fifties or earlier grew up with a completely different sense of what being a man meant when compared to the current generation of young men raised in an educational system and culture heavily slanted towards the femininization of men in America.

Leave aside the whole issue of whether he should have taken a shot or not. When I saw the video of him sitting there quivering, I couldn't help picture John Wayne saying to him, "Come on, Pilgrim, pull yourself together." That was my cultural conditioning.

Do not misunderstand me, my point is not that he should have been more stoic. My point is men raised in the 50's had a much different cultural conditioning than men raised in the last 20 years.

Impossible to know all the "what-if's" or to criticize when not actually being there as part of the situation. I get all that.

However, consider this scenario where I had an active shooter in my sights, determined I could not shoot without risking 3rd parties, chose to retreat, and then the shooter went on to kill more people. I would find that very, very difficult to live with.