So how can a person buy a used gun without concern? I don't want a registry system... but I sure as hell don't want to get a used piece in my local mom and pop gun hut and get pulled over with it and it be stolen. I don't keep receipts. I don't want to start either. But I don't want silver cop jewelry either.
BTW, I have multiple friends that are cops. Next time I will likely just call one of them. I just didn't think of it as a "favor", I thought of it as a smart move. There is such a distance between cops and civilians. No offense to the officers of this board, I truly appreciate your service. I love criminal justice, crushed the LSAT, but wont go the route I would like most just because of that line. Kinda sucks, but thats how it is.
also, when the cop that called in my gun he didn't have to explain why he wanted it or what it was for. He just grabbed the phone, dialed the number, told them his name and that he needed a gun ran. Gave them the info. They said it was clear. Whole thing took 20 seconds. I cannot imagine why anyone would care that he did such a thing. Now if I wanted to check YOUR gun or background or something I see the issue. He was super cool about it. I didn't get the vibe he felt he was sticking his neck out.
Since I got the gun checked and some decent ammo for it my grandfather has took it with him every day. When he is at home it is beside him in his chair part of the sectional he loves, and on his nightstand at night. Makes me feel good inside.
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- Thu Mar 29, 2012 11:23 pm
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- Thu Mar 29, 2012 12:06 am
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Re: Tried to get local cop on patrol to NCIC check gun, deni
I thought serving was part of their official business?
it is half of the thingie on their car protect and serve.
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- Wed Mar 28, 2012 12:28 pm
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
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Re: Tried to get local cop on patrol to NCIC check gun, deni
I think I am the first person to go downtown and ask for them to run a check on a gun. When I told the secretary girl I wanted to speak to someone about running a NCIC check on a firearm she looked at me like I had 2 heads on my neck and said a what? I told her I needed the serial checked to make sure it was never stolen since I got it used from another person she looked at me like I only had maybe 1.75 heads.
I am kinda glad it happened like it did. I met a really nice officer who was super helpful and understanding of what I was trying to do. I really think this would be a good situation for the police. If someone brings in a gun right after they get it and has it checked and it comes up stolen then they get that gun off the street right then and closer to the time of purchase so more likely to track down the person it came from. Imagine if it had been stolen in a home invasion where someone died? It might be the evidence link they need to connect the dots and solve a crime. Not likely, but just seems win win. When I told him I just wanted it checked because it had changed hands so many times off the books and I wanted them to get it from me directly than run it in a traffic stop and me have a stolen gun he seemed real at ease about it.
by the way, the cop in the cruiser that wouldn't do it worked for a different department. He was a city cop of a tiny little town right beside mine that I have to drive thru to get from my section of this town to the other sections of it. The person that ran it for me works for the county, and they have jurisdiction over both areas. I think if I had found a trooper to ask or a county cop instead of the podunk city cop they would have been happy to help me. I think if it had come back stolen I would have told the officer that ran it for me about how the other wouldn't even look at it and missed an opportunity to get a stolen gun off the streets when a citizen brought it to his attention. I don't see much difference in that and saying "hey I saw someone down the road trying to slim jim a car, maybe you want to check it out" and him just blowing me off. maybe it is his car with keys locked in it, maybe a thief. If I were an officer I would want to investigate it. Especially if some jackass I didn't even know pulled up to me on the beat and mentioned he had a gun that might be stolen... I would find that odd and maybe suspicious and check it out.![Laughing :lol:](./images/smilies/icon_lol.gif)
I am kinda glad it happened like it did. I met a really nice officer who was super helpful and understanding of what I was trying to do. I really think this would be a good situation for the police. If someone brings in a gun right after they get it and has it checked and it comes up stolen then they get that gun off the street right then and closer to the time of purchase so more likely to track down the person it came from. Imagine if it had been stolen in a home invasion where someone died? It might be the evidence link they need to connect the dots and solve a crime. Not likely, but just seems win win. When I told him I just wanted it checked because it had changed hands so many times off the books and I wanted them to get it from me directly than run it in a traffic stop and me have a stolen gun he seemed real at ease about it.
by the way, the cop in the cruiser that wouldn't do it worked for a different department. He was a city cop of a tiny little town right beside mine that I have to drive thru to get from my section of this town to the other sections of it. The person that ran it for me works for the county, and they have jurisdiction over both areas. I think if I had found a trooper to ask or a county cop instead of the podunk city cop they would have been happy to help me. I think if it had come back stolen I would have told the officer that ran it for me about how the other wouldn't even look at it and missed an opportunity to get a stolen gun off the streets when a citizen brought it to his attention. I don't see much difference in that and saying "hey I saw someone down the road trying to slim jim a car, maybe you want to check it out" and him just blowing me off. maybe it is his car with keys locked in it, maybe a thief. If I were an officer I would want to investigate it. Especially if some jackass I didn't even know pulled up to me on the beat and mentioned he had a gun that might be stolen... I would find that odd and maybe suspicious and check it out.
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- Tue Mar 27, 2012 8:53 pm
- Forum: LEO Contacts & Bloopers
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Tried to get local cop on patrol to NCIC check gun, denied
So My grandfather is a young guy for his age lol. Him and my grandmother are very active so I tell him a month ago that I told my local gun store buddies to watch for a .38 a snub to come in that I could give him. He in turn tells his brother, my uncle, who decides to bring one over to give to me for this purpose. He has given me a couple guns over the years, and I have called the local sheriff department to do NCIC checks on them cause he buys lots of stuff face to face and at auctions. I don't want anyone caught with a stolen gun especially my grandfather. You know the cops won't believe him when he says I got that from my brother and didn't know it was stolen. Or whatever.
So I call the same sheriff office that checked a gun over the phone for me 2 weeks ago with the info and they won't check it over the phone in case it is stolen. I live way out so they don't want to come by to check it. They offer to send an officer out later, I decline cause I have stuff to do. I am running errands later and take the gun with me in case I see a local cop, which I do. I pull up next to him, ask if he has a minute, and he says he has time and I tell him want I am wanting to do. Cop looks 100 years old so I am even nicer than usual to him. He tells me he cannot do a check on a gun to see if it is stolen. I see the radio right beside him! Does he not run guns that he finds on people or in a shooting or check people for warrants using their database? I don't get it.
Best part is I tell him I want to make sure it is not stolen cause my grandfather is maybe going to get his CHL and I don't want him in jail. The cop replies to me, when he gets his CHL they will run the serial then. At that point I stop and politely correct him. I tell him they don't even ask what you plan to maybe carry or that the gun even be yours. Just the semi/wheel gun thing. He shrugs, I thank him for his time and leave.
Went to local sheriff department today with all info on a piece of paper and the gun downstairs in the glovebox. Talk to the local captain, he asks me if I have the gun with me. I tell him it is downstairs in the parking lot cause I didn't know their policy on carrying a gun in there and couldn't see the doors from the parking lot (for 30.06 signs) so I left it there. I hand him the paper and he says great this is all I need. 10 second phone call, hands me back the paper and says it is all clear. Great guy.
Still can't believe the other cop denied to do it.
So I call the same sheriff office that checked a gun over the phone for me 2 weeks ago with the info and they won't check it over the phone in case it is stolen. I live way out so they don't want to come by to check it. They offer to send an officer out later, I decline cause I have stuff to do. I am running errands later and take the gun with me in case I see a local cop, which I do. I pull up next to him, ask if he has a minute, and he says he has time and I tell him want I am wanting to do. Cop looks 100 years old so I am even nicer than usual to him. He tells me he cannot do a check on a gun to see if it is stolen. I see the radio right beside him! Does he not run guns that he finds on people or in a shooting or check people for warrants using their database? I don't get it.
Best part is I tell him I want to make sure it is not stolen cause my grandfather is maybe going to get his CHL and I don't want him in jail. The cop replies to me, when he gets his CHL they will run the serial then. At that point I stop and politely correct him. I tell him they don't even ask what you plan to maybe carry or that the gun even be yours. Just the semi/wheel gun thing. He shrugs, I thank him for his time and leave.
Went to local sheriff department today with all info on a piece of paper and the gun downstairs in the glovebox. Talk to the local captain, he asks me if I have the gun with me. I tell him it is downstairs in the parking lot cause I didn't know their policy on carrying a gun in there and couldn't see the doors from the parking lot (for 30.06 signs) so I left it there. I hand him the paper and he says great this is all I need. 10 second phone call, hands me back the paper and says it is all clear. Great guy.
Still can't believe the other cop denied to do it.