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Excaliber wrote:

cubbyjg wrote:So the police wont help and if i were to try to get to my car, i run the risk of entering into a confrontation. And if things hit the fan, and i have to use my gun to defend myself, i would be in a heated battle where the court would be asking, why didnt i just stay away. I agree that 8 on 1 does not work to my advantage but it seems either way i get the shaft while the punks continue to be punks.

There are usually more ways than the most obvious to get to where you need to be, but sometimes they take a bit of creativity. Pooling brain power is one of the advantages of participating in this Forum.

Check out this thought which appeared in another thread:

grim-bob wrote:Assuming the police aren't coming anytime soon and you want to give them a nudge without directly confronting them. Don't remember seeing this idea but it seems the perfect time to use a panic alarm on your car's remote (assuming it has one). Most people like this don't like any extra attention and having a panic alarm going off repeatedly draws just that. They may assume the alarm is from them bumping the car since you are out of sight in the building. The chance of them damaging the car out of anger is still there but not as likely to occur or at least occur to a lesser degree since they aren't teaching "you" a lesson.

Think about it.

It makes staying on the car not fun.

If done right, the alarm appears to have been triggered by the people on the car, so there's no one to retaliate against.

It does attract attention and creates motivation to find another car to sit on.

All in all, it gets the job done without the drawbacks of the more obvious approaches.

I like it.

I also like this idea as an option.

But as I get older I have found that I don't move as fast as I could as a young man so for me confronting 8 thugs is out of the question, actually confronting 1 or 2 is not a good idea because I like the idea of going home to my wife and seeing my grandkids again and would like to someday retire from the ratrace. But I really don't have a problem with walking away from a "thing" like a car, even a new one, that can be replaced and is insurred anyway. It is not worth risking your life over a thing.
If my wife was in that car surrounded by thugs, that is a whole nuther matter, and if I could not get the LEO's there quickly, even telling them that shots are about to be fired, then it could and probably would turn ugly very quickly. Truth be told.......I would not be in that part of town after dark in the first place no matter how much $$ you are paid.

cubbyjg wrote:The lack of PD support is really disturbing.

And it is only going to get worse as more PD's accross the Country cut the number of LEO's to meet budgets. Just one more reason I will have a CHL soon!