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by steveincowtown
Fri Jul 21, 2017 2:16 pm
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Topic: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off
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Re: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off

cyphur wrote:
steveincowtown wrote:
Playing devils advocate a bit here, but could you provide the section of penal code that he violated that the trooper would have been warning him that he violated?

Flipping someone off is only a crime when witnessed and then complained about/reported by a third party. No third party involved here.

Let's start with common sense public safety - which is REALLY what police should be focused on. Would you rather see someone pulled over for a polite conversation or see the cops investigating a multiple-homicide road rage incident that would likely wind up in innocent casualties?

I'm all for personal liberties, but when you put unrelated third parties in potential danger, you are being reckless. You don't need to agree with me, and I'm not trying to change your mind. I am stating my opinion on the matter, no more and no less.
To each their own. The law is on the side of the "flipper" not "flippee" on this one. LEO's can't pull folks over for "polite conversations" alone. Just isn't the way it works.
Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety.
by steveincowtown
Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:24 pm
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Topic: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off
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Views: 24157

Re: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off

cyphur wrote:
Having an offensive bumper sticker is not nearly as likely to incite violence as flipping someone off. I didn't say I WANTED them to pull anyone over, nor did I say it should be standard practice. However, stupid is as stupid does. Actions SHOULD have consequences. If you flip off a cop, and you get a warning over it, so be it.

With that said, as a citizen, you are fully within your right to tell them to pound sand and object to any perceived harassment. I'd have no problem with that either.
Playing devils advocate a bit here, but could you provide the section of penal code that he violated that the trooper would have been warning him that he violated?

Flipping someone off is only a crime when witnessed and then complained about/reported by a third party. No third party involved here.
by steveincowtown
Fri Jul 21, 2017 1:09 pm
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off
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Re: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off

cyphur wrote: However, I don't see the problem in pulling someone over and advising them of the foolishness they displayed, and then politely point out the potential to incite road rage that could potentially result in their own injury or demise.

The guy does not need to be a LEO, either way.
I do. No crime was committed. Should an LEO be able to pull you over for "foolishness" because you have a bumper sticker they don't like? Or maybe the he doesn't like red cars? Or maybe you have a "foolish" hair cut.

Why couldn't the ranger be like every other cop on the planet and wait for the guy to cross the center line, or not signaling 100' before an intersection, or "illegal" trim around the license plate, etc.? Then ticket him with a smile on his face.

100% agreed on the not needing to be an LEO.
by steveincowtown
Wed Jul 19, 2017 9:29 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off
Replies: 76
Views: 24157

Re: Texas Ranger pulls gun on driver who flipped him off

#1> Flipping the bird is covered under 1A

#2> I grew up in the era of the Colonial Parkway murders. If someone out of uniform in an unmarked car pulled me over and then exited the car with a gun, the day would have ended poorly for all involved.

#3> This officer should be fired. He has proven through his actions that he does not have the proper temperament to be a Texas Ranger.

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