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chasfm11 wrote:

..."The BG takes the witness stand and, in tears, tells that jury that he never meant to hurt anyone but he suffered as a child and just needed money for his drugs to take away his pain"...

..."I would probably trying to study the BG as carefully as possible"...

in most states if you use a gun there is no way back, if its loaded your screwed! no amount of tears even a rivers worth will not wash away the fact he pointed a loaded gun in someones face with a room full of witnesses. PERIOD!!!

Salty1 wrote:Protecting somebody elses money is not something I would even consider doing. Under the initial situation mentioned I would assume that it is being robbed by a junkie who just needs money for another fix and is going to hit and run, he is going to take whatever is handed to him and head out the door. If the person at the register decides to not comply then that is a mistake on their part. If shots rang out then that is another story and still would depend on what is going on, remember that if you shoot somebody it is going to cost you lawers fee's, potentially even more............

oh, its just a junkie. its ok, his life means so much more than ours! please Mr.Junkie man take what you need.

..."If the person at the register decides to not comply then that is a mistake on their part."...
I'm lovin the compassion here!

..."if you shoot somebody it is going to cost you lawers fee's"...
shoot the guy and call me! i'll chip in and call up my buddies who will do the same.

WildBill wrote: ...if he would have just taken the money and left without harming anybody.

thats not the point.

Embalmo wrote:I've never drawn or fired on a (human) threat and it is my goal to maintain both those perfect records.

then why own a gun? why not tazers or pepper spay? they seem to suit you, better yet just softly spout "please don't" in their general direction.

lrb111 wrote: The problem with armed robbers if this is his first it wouldn't be his last. If it's not his first then he may fire on the crowd for effect. I would be too close to him to expect that I or loved one might not be hit.

right on brother!

if we let them do it once they will do it twice! next time they will probably smile as they pop off a few rounds just for kicks.

ok, first of all all of you who wait the situation out have lost all you best opportunities. on Sept. 11th two planes full of people waited the situation out, the third had some that did not. you say you don't want to be a "hero" but you are not even going to be proactive about your own safety? peoples lives are already at risk, how many(including yourself) are you willing to lose? you can never truly predict how a situation will end, you can however take advantage of it and steer it . this guy "appears" to be nervous and most likely is locked on to mom and the cash (is or has he been looking around?) any sudden movement will gain attention from mom causing her to look "instinctively" in your direction thus turning the BG to you. slowly slide to position yourself behind the BG where mom can not see and check the other patrons to make sure their attention is focused forward. if by chance someone is looking at you and not the action(not bloody likely), calmly smile and bring your finger to your mouth(be quiet). prepare for a "rodey run". the distance is short and you should close at the least 75% before any others turn towards you, by the time you aproch the BG if they have not been made aware of you announce yourself(tell mom to get down). turn him from mom, as the gun leaves mom's face and swings around up comes your left arm( reverse hands if he swings the other way) to block and/or graple the gun/hand. here is where you get to make a choice. 3-5 rounds to end the show or like I would do crack him in the temple till he goes down. if his other hand/arm becomes active then fire a few rounds into him. make sure his gun stays pointed up as he goes down! if by chance you were not fast enough getting to him then your gun is drawn and you still have the advantage. depending on your level of marksmanship, disable his ability to fire but dont rely on that. hand, arm, shoulder then head. a person running on adrenilene is more likely to take several center mass hits than you have in you mag. you have to STOP him first, if you hit center all 6-8 rounds he still turns and fires hitting you and/or others. take away his ability to fire and YOU are safe, ok yes and everyone else too.

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