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Grayling813 wrote: ↑Thu Sep 19, 2024 2:00 pm
Paxton shot his case in the foot with his 2016 opinion that found private entities could ban guns on government-leased property as long as the government “has no control over the decision to post such notice.”

The biggest difference in the Fair and other orgs like the FTW Zoo is the use of metal detectors.

What if someone were to get a large group of LTCs to show up on opening day and attempt armed entry? They would be stopped at the metal detectors, and would leave peacefully (with video of each instance). Might be standing for a class action suit. Might even arrange some press coverage.

The way the law is currently written makes this application very hard to circumvent.
If not for the metal detectors a licensee can disregard those signs, as I'm sure many of us do already.

By using metal detectors we can be turned away, and our only recourse is legal action. We should not have to be arrested and hire a lawyer to exercise a right that is formally recognized by the State of Texas.

They law should be amended extending the prohibition to any and all parties using all or a portion of the property to host events.
There should also be a penalty for those parties posting unenforceable 30.06 signs.
I would like to see county sheriffs depts take the lead in proactively correcting such improper signage once the law is amended or clarified.

In the meantime it would be good for Paxton to weigh in, but I don't see a way for him to legally stop this before the Fair opens.
Hopefully public pressure will show the error of this decision.

"Texas House Republicans are pressuring State Fair officials to rescind its recent decision to ban all firearms from the fairgrounds.
....
As of noon on Monday, 71 state lawmakers and Republican House nominees signed a petition"

https://www.texastribune.org/2024/08/12 ... dium=email

Here is the letter he linked to:

https://www2.texasattorneygeneral.gov/f ... th_Zoo.pdf

This is news to me.

Is the State Fair of Texas a registered non-profit?
And why does this make a difference?

This reporter has responded with a letter from the OAG regarding the Fort Worth Zoo where we had the same issue.
It states the OAG has determined the Zoo can post legal 30.06 signs because they operate the zoo and the city has no part in that.

The situation seems identical to the State Fair case. What am I missing?

ajwakeboarder wrote: ↑Sat Aug 10, 2024 10:43 am I believe it’s 411.209 of the Texas Government code

Thanks for that.

Now who wants to head over there and be video'd while being turned away?

Thanks SRothstein. I have replied to the writer with all the above.

I am in an email discussion with the KERA reporter who wrote their story on this. Can anyone help me find the stature that prohibits firearms bans on govt/publicly owned property, regardless of what organization is using it at the time?