gigag04,
Sorry for the delay getting back - "real life" gets in the way sometimes.
Watching a rifle match is as exciting as watching paint dry. Three hundred yards at the enormous target - MR63 has an 18" aiming black, which includes the 7, 8, 9, 10, and X rings - is like 25 yards at a 1.5" black spot, or 50 yards at a 3" spot.
Also, lying prone with the sling pulling the rifle very firmly into your shoulder is a very stable position. Trust me, you will be *amazed* at how well you can print at 300, if you have never tired it.
And to top it all off: no one teases, denigrates, or disparages anyone's scores. Last Saturday at the across-the-course match, I shot the worst score I've shot in about 3 years - couldn't get anything right - and still, no one teased me. This is important - for those of us thin-skinned enough to be run off by embarrassment.
Anyway, the rifle you are building will be good for three-gun matches too, and clearly for more serious purposes. Have fun!
Regards,
Andrew
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- Tue Jun 14, 2005 8:41 am
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- Fri Jun 10, 2005 1:18 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: ar15 capturing my interest. Now what?
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Nick,
First off, that sounds like a sweet setup. You may eventually want a two-stage trigger but I don't see it costing more to add it later - beyond the initial cost of the stock one. I like the Jewell trigger but a number of people say it is passe (can't spell it - means, like, out-of-date, yesterday's fad) - there are better two-stage triggers out there.
You did not mention a rear sight. Flat-top with no carry handle, with standard front sight base for gas block, you either need a scope, carry handle with sight, or stand-alone rear sight.
Our club has two matches you might be interested in. One is prone only, three 20-shot slow fire strings (20 rounds in 20 minutes plus two sighters each time), alternaing with pulling targets in the pits. This is the third Sunday. There is a class (F-Class) for scoped rifles; otherwise it is Service Rifle or Match Rifle. 300 yards.
The other match is the standard across-the-course Highpower match, the second Saturday. It is Service Rifle or Match Rifle and the course of fire is:
20 rounds standing in 20 minutes, loaded and fired individually, 200 yards.
Two 10-shot strings seated for a total of 20 shots; each in 60 seconds, with a reload (load two mags, 2 rounds and 8 rounds, in deference to the old Garand that held 8 rounds). 200 yards.
Two 10-shot strings prone, 70 seconds each - same deal with the reload. 300 yards.
20 rounds prone at 600 yards, slow-fire like the standing.
There are 2 sighters in front of each of these four strings of fire - standing, seated, prone rapid, prone slow, so the match is 80 rounds plus 8 sighters.
People do shoot a 16" barrel no problem at 300, but for 600, most use a 1:8 twist 20" barrel and heavier (77 or 80 grain) bullets, because the wind is a factor. Nothing wrong with having more than one upper, eventually.
This is getting too long, and I'm nervous about offending Charles and the other board members, spouting off about rifle matches on a CHL board.
I have a .pdf file our match director wrote a couple years ago, intro to Highpower. Anyone wants it, let me know and I will be delighted to send it - I have his permission.
And the offer stands - my "other" rifle is available for loan for the match, but be warned it is a 1:9 twist so will not shoot all that well at 600 - but if we can get on opposite relays, we can share my main rifle.
Regards,
Andrew
First off, that sounds like a sweet setup. You may eventually want a two-stage trigger but I don't see it costing more to add it later - beyond the initial cost of the stock one. I like the Jewell trigger but a number of people say it is passe (can't spell it - means, like, out-of-date, yesterday's fad) - there are better two-stage triggers out there.
You did not mention a rear sight. Flat-top with no carry handle, with standard front sight base for gas block, you either need a scope, carry handle with sight, or stand-alone rear sight.
Our club has two matches you might be interested in. One is prone only, three 20-shot slow fire strings (20 rounds in 20 minutes plus two sighters each time), alternaing with pulling targets in the pits. This is the third Sunday. There is a class (F-Class) for scoped rifles; otherwise it is Service Rifle or Match Rifle. 300 yards.
The other match is the standard across-the-course Highpower match, the second Saturday. It is Service Rifle or Match Rifle and the course of fire is:
20 rounds standing in 20 minutes, loaded and fired individually, 200 yards.
Two 10-shot strings seated for a total of 20 shots; each in 60 seconds, with a reload (load two mags, 2 rounds and 8 rounds, in deference to the old Garand that held 8 rounds). 200 yards.
Two 10-shot strings prone, 70 seconds each - same deal with the reload. 300 yards.
20 rounds prone at 600 yards, slow-fire like the standing.
There are 2 sighters in front of each of these four strings of fire - standing, seated, prone rapid, prone slow, so the match is 80 rounds plus 8 sighters.
People do shoot a 16" barrel no problem at 300, but for 600, most use a 1:8 twist 20" barrel and heavier (77 or 80 grain) bullets, because the wind is a factor. Nothing wrong with having more than one upper, eventually.
This is getting too long, and I'm nervous about offending Charles and the other board members, spouting off about rifle matches on a CHL board.
I have a .pdf file our match director wrote a couple years ago, intro to Highpower. Anyone wants it, let me know and I will be delighted to send it - I have his permission.
And the offer stands - my "other" rifle is available for loan for the match, but be warned it is a 1:9 twist so will not shoot all that well at 600 - but if we can get on opposite relays, we can share my main rifle.
Regards,
Andrew
- Sat Jun 04, 2005 3:54 pm
- Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
- Topic: ar15 capturing my interest. Now what?
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Might not work out this way, but it happens to a lot of people who buy an AR-15 - they get interested in Highpower and wind up with an AR set up for the match, and spend at least one Saturday morning a month shooting the across-the-course match - standing, seated, and prone.
All you need to start is an AR-15 that "looks" like a service rifle (none of the stylish, expensive add-ons), and an old piece of carpet for a mat. And 88 rounds of ammo. The free-float tube, shooting coat, spotting scope/stand, and the rest of the gear come later, after you are hooked.
If you come down by Houston next Saturday (early!) or any second Satruday of the month, you can come to the match with me, share equipment, borrow my other rifle, and I will give you the ammo to shoot. Let me know.
There is a Highpower match in the College Station area too... I think the club is Brazos Valley Rifles or a similar name; too lazy to look it up on the web but you will find it if you are interested.
Regards,
Andrew
All you need to start is an AR-15 that "looks" like a service rifle (none of the stylish, expensive add-ons), and an old piece of carpet for a mat. And 88 rounds of ammo. The free-float tube, shooting coat, spotting scope/stand, and the rest of the gear come later, after you are hooked.
If you come down by Houston next Saturday (early!) or any second Satruday of the month, you can come to the match with me, share equipment, borrow my other rifle, and I will give you the ammo to shoot. Let me know.
There is a Highpower match in the College Station area too... I think the club is Brazos Valley Rifles or a similar name; too lazy to look it up on the web but you will find it if you are interested.
Regards,
Andrew