Gentlemen,
My question, "Do any of you know CHL holders who carry but seldom shoot?" has been answered quite well. I am dismayed that many CHL holders do not see fit to maintain their shooting skills, but that is what several instructors here report.
CATS1948 originally asked if anyone had heard the argument that regular citizens, as opposed to Law Enforcement Officers, would perform worse that LEOs since they do not practice as much. I took issue with the idea that they do not practice as much, and it appears I was wrong.
Anyway, I think we can all agree to that we want to avoid having to shoot anyone, but if the situation arises we will do our best to keep the shots on target, not hitting innocent bystanders (or even slightly-guilty bystanders, if they do not pose a threat).
Thank you all for your informative responses.
Regards,
Andrew
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- Wed Aug 02, 2006 12:06 pm
- Forum: New to CHL?
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- Tue Aug 01, 2006 1:55 pm
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Oy Vey. Such a can of worms... I'm almost sorry I asked, but it is better to know than to not know.
Quoting CATS1948:
"...he wasn't sure that arming citizens was the best idea...everyone knows that police officers practice more than citizens, and they miss 86% of their shots, so how can we mere civilians expect to do any good?"
First off, I'm not sure I would call it "arming citizens" - we citizens are arming ourselves.
From some of the feedback here, it seems that there *are* CHL holders who are not proficient - so maybe that supports the instructor's position.
OTOH when a police officer arrives at the scene of an altercation, it may not be entirely clear who the aggressor is, accounting for perhaps the "wrong" person getting shot - versus an armed citizen shooting a clear aggressor.
OTTH (on the third hand) - practice at the range can only take one so far. Learning to perform under pressure may be more important than being able to shoot well with only a score at stake.
Apologies... I'm rambling. Taken aback at the idea of CHL holders who do not take their responsibilities seriously enough to maintain their shooting abilities, or who maybe don't *really* think it could ever happen, so they have a pistol and a CHL and atrophied skills, but "it is ok because they will never really need it."
Regards,
Andrew
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Quoting CATS1948:
"...he wasn't sure that arming citizens was the best idea...everyone knows that police officers practice more than citizens, and they miss 86% of their shots, so how can we mere civilians expect to do any good?"
First off, I'm not sure I would call it "arming citizens" - we citizens are arming ourselves.
From some of the feedback here, it seems that there *are* CHL holders who are not proficient - so maybe that supports the instructor's position.
OTOH when a police officer arrives at the scene of an altercation, it may not be entirely clear who the aggressor is, accounting for perhaps the "wrong" person getting shot - versus an armed citizen shooting a clear aggressor.
OTTH (on the third hand) - practice at the range can only take one so far. Learning to perform under pressure may be more important than being able to shoot well with only a score at stake.
Apologies... I'm rambling. Taken aback at the idea of CHL holders who do not take their responsibilities seriously enough to maintain their shooting abilities, or who maybe don't *really* think it could ever happen, so they have a pistol and a CHL and atrophied skills, but "it is ok because they will never really need it."
Regards,
Andrew
PS CATS1948 - if your screen name means you like cats, if you are looking for one/some - PM me.
- Tue Aug 01, 2006 10:25 am
- Forum: New to CHL?
- Topic: Uncertain about this instructor...
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The assumption that most CHL holders will not practice much seems, to me, flawed.
Taking on the responsibility of going armed, and accepting the possiblity of having to actually draw and shoot at an attacker, along with the paragraph - §9.05. Reckless injury of innocent third person - that txinvestigator quoted, it seems to me that most people would do their very best to get good enough to hit - and not miss.
Maybe I'm naive of foolish, or maybe I read the forum too much, but I don't know anyone who carries a pistol who does not also shoot often and strive to improve.
Do any of you know CHL holders who carry but seldom shoot?
Regards,
Andrew
Taking on the responsibility of going armed, and accepting the possiblity of having to actually draw and shoot at an attacker, along with the paragraph - §9.05. Reckless injury of innocent third person - that txinvestigator quoted, it seems to me that most people would do their very best to get good enough to hit - and not miss.
Maybe I'm naive of foolish, or maybe I read the forum too much, but I don't know anyone who carries a pistol who does not also shoot often and strive to improve.
Do any of you know CHL holders who carry but seldom shoot?
Regards,
Andrew