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by Paladin
Tue Sep 08, 2020 8:08 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Dinesh D'Souza says recent riots and political unrest could lead to 'rise of citizen militias around the country'
Replies: 22
Views: 5371

Re: Dinesh D'Souza says recent riots and political unrest could lead to 'rise of citizen militias around the country'

Flightmare wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 10:01 pm
cirus wrote: Mon Sep 07, 2020 8:25 pm Had Kyle had a chest rig full of mags and opened up on them I think they would have changed their tune. They're bold because no-one has stood up to them and unleashed hell on them. Its coming though.
Had Kyle opened fire indiscriminately upon the crowd, things would likely be very different for him.

As it stands, he stopped 3 active threats and removed himself from the situation. I think this is a good example for all of us. Just my opinion.
I strongly agree that Kyle showed outstanding judgement regarding his use of force. He was under severe distress and showed great restraint in responding to the deadly force used against him.

I am not a lawyer, but as I understand the law regarding rioting:
Persons Liable

Principal rioters are those who are present and actively participate in the riot. All persons present who are not actually assisting in the suppression of the riot can be regarded as participants when their presence is intentional and tends to encourage the rioters.
...
Defenses

There is never any justification for a riot. The only defense that can be claimed is that an element of the offense is absent. Participation is an essential element. Establishing that an individual's presence at the scene of a riot was accidental can remove any presumption of guilt.
-legal dictionary

There appears to be quite a bit of legal liability for rioters. Unless you can show you were present to suppress the rioting or were accidentally there... those supporting the riot appear to share the guilt along with those firebombing and assaulting with weapons.
by Paladin
Mon Sep 07, 2020 2:41 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Dinesh D'Souza says recent riots and political unrest could lead to 'rise of citizen militias around the country'
Replies: 22
Views: 5371

Dinesh D'Souza says recent riots and political unrest could lead to 'rise of citizen militias around the country'

Dinesh D'Souza says recent riots and political unrest could lead to 'rise of citizen militias around the country'
'I'm not advocating this, I'm predicting it. It is a natural and inevitable response to the militarization of one side'
"Local governments and state governors are calling down the cops and licensing their own private gangs. If the cops won't protect us, then you're going to see the rise of citizen militias around the country."
He drew a line in the sand between the GOP and Democrats, saying one seeks to create anarchy and chaos, while the other seeks a peaceful coexistence based on individualism, freedom and economic prosperity.

"If the Democrats want to try the approach that's called 'license the criminal gangs and start setting fires to businesses' that's their model," the Indian Immigrant to America said. "Our model is peace and prosperity and commerce and civility -- then let people choose if they want to live in burned-out Milwaukee or burned out Portland, or if they'd much rather live in a nice Republican suburb where it's really nice and there's good stuff to be found in stores."

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