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by Paladin
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:27 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Suppressor's
Replies: 16
Views: 5580

Re: Suppressor's

jb2012 wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:22 am
Paladin wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:18 am
jb2012 wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:41 am
crazy2medic wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:02 am The idiocy of this is a Suppresor in noway silences a shot, it eliminates the supersonicc crack,, but it's still very loud, somebody was watching too much Hollywood when this was passed
A suppressor cannot eliminate the supersonic crack, as this happens as soon as the bullet leaves the barrel/can, and happens the entire time the bullet is supersonic. It does diminish the report from the ignition of the round.

To answer the original question probably never, and the best time to start the waiting game was yesterday.
It all depends on which silencer you are discussing. Most silencers only slow gases exiting the muzzle, but there are other integral devices that are different:

MP5SD

An MP5SD along with other integral suppressors do not muffle the supersonic crack, the vented gas into the external chambers, before the muzzle, cause a drop in velocity often times below supersonic speeds. You cannot muffle a supersonic crack.
That's not what I said. You said "A suppressor cannot eliminate the supersonic crack"... In fact the integral device on the MP5SD vents gases from the barrel into the suppressor to reduce exit velocity to subsonic and therefore eliminates supersonic crack. :thumbs2:
by Paladin
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:18 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Suppressor's
Replies: 16
Views: 5580

Re: Suppressor's

jb2012 wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:41 am
crazy2medic wrote: Mon Jul 18, 2022 6:02 am The idiocy of this is a Suppresor in noway silences a shot, it eliminates the supersonicc crack,, but it's still very loud, somebody was watching too much Hollywood when this was passed
A suppressor cannot eliminate the supersonic crack, as this happens as soon as the bullet leaves the barrel/can, and happens the entire time the bullet is supersonic. It does diminish the report from the ignition of the round.

To answer the original question probably never, and the best time to start the waiting game was yesterday.
It all depends on which silencer you are discussing. Most silencers only slow gases exiting the muzzle, but there are other integral devices that are different:

MP5SD

by Paladin
Mon Jul 18, 2022 8:12 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Suppressor's
Replies: 16
Views: 5580

Re: Suppressor's

So far the anti-gunners succeeded in shutting down the Hearing Protection Act and other legislation. They will fight tooth and nail. Eventually we will win as Suppressors are not actually themselves firearms and certainly not "dangerous" in an of themselves. Current rulings from the Supreme Court show that weapons must be both "dangerous and unusual" to prohibit them and silencers are neither of those things... making the NFA with regards to silencers unconstitutional.

Not that I would recommend doing anything illegal, but there have been books floating around the internet for many years showing exactly how easy it is to manufacture your own. The mafia publicly confirmed that they just make their own.

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