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by Paladin
Thu Feb 24, 2022 1:51 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Ukraine goes all 2nd amendment all of a sudden
Replies: 20
Views: 5074

Re: Ukraine goes all 2nd amendment all of a sudden

jerry_r60 wrote: Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:21 pm From Feb 16th...show you bought a gun, get a free pizza. ..."We can't rely on the state"...

https://www.rferl.org/a/ukraine-private ... 92882.html

I read another story saying the government is now providing a weapon to anyone that wants one however in a quick look to put a link here I didn't quickly find one.
...it takes an average of one month to obtain a gun permit


Too little, to late. Hopefully other European countries will take note and adopt a Total Defense Policy
by Paladin
Thu Feb 24, 2022 12:11 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Ukraine goes all 2nd amendment all of a sudden
Replies: 20
Views: 5074

Re: Ukraine goes all 2nd amendment all of a sudden

RAND Analysis of Ukraine situation is bleak:
Once deterrence fails and a war begins, the Ukrainian armed forces will find themselves in desperate circumstances almost immediately. Ukraine does not have anywhere near enough forces to credibly defend against all the potential avenues of attack...Russia's advantages in capacity, capability, and geography combine to pose insurmountable challenges for Ukrainian forces tasked with defending their country.
...the most effective way Washington can help is to work on finding a diplomatic solution.
Too bad we have a boatload of incompetents in Washington.

Best thing would be to sign an agreement with Putin before he exposes more Washington total incompetence.
by Paladin
Wed Feb 23, 2022 5:44 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Ukraine goes all 2nd amendment all of a sudden
Replies: 20
Views: 5074

Re: Ukraine goes all 2nd amendment all of a sudden

Seems a little late. Sounds like a possible cover for this:

CIA-trained Ukrainian paramilitaries may take central role if Russia invades
The CIA is overseeing a secret intensive training program in the U.S. for elite Ukrainian special operations forces and other intelligence personnel, according to five former intelligence and national security officials familiar with the initiative. The program, which started in 2015, is based at an undisclosed facility in the Southern U.S., according to some of those officials.
Same story that Plato wrote about THOUSANDS of years ago:
Arms and the Greeks
Plato points out one of the disadvantages of oligarchy: "Another discreditable feature is, that, for a like reason, they are incapable of carrying on any war. Either they arm the multitude, and then they are more afraid of them than of the enemy; or, if they do not call them out in the hour of battle, they are oligarchs indeed, few to fight as they are few to rule."

Eventually, the oligarchy is supplanted by democracy, "whether the revolution has been effected by arms, or whether fear has caused the opposite party to withdraw." In other words, either armed revolution or the credible threat of armed revolution causes the oligarchy to lose its power.
So essentially times of great danger foster an arming of the people which creates democracy.

My hat's off to Ukraine :tiphat:

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