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Why would a fully loaded revolver be more comforting than a DA/SA hammered semi with one in the chamber?

Lee Paige , the Drug Enforcement Administration Agent who shot himself in front of all those school children, also had 14 years carrying his Glock safely before he got his first case of Glockleg. He swore he was the only one safe enough to hold his Glock seconds before he shot himself.

I'm not saying that the Glock and it's ilk can't be a good and safe carry. But I get very concerned when people don't recognize the danger and risk. and mitigate it.

I carry in a Desantis nylon collapsible holster inside the waist at around 4:oo clock. Some would call it a dangerous carry. I address the danger by never holstering the gun while the holster is at my hip and carrying a handgun with a hammer and manual safety. I could carry a stiffer holster more towards that more towards my line of sight.

The same goes with lots of things about everyday carry. we need to look at all the pro's and con's on everything we do. Is my gun fast enough to get on sight? Can I shoot it accurately enough? Is it as concealable as I want? Is my handgun Secure enough?

Every carry is an engineering tradeoff. We need to understand the strengths and weaknesses of our EDC. To fail to understand and recognize the issues of our carry is to set ourselves up for failure.

allisji wrote:

C-dub wrote: Yeah, it's called carelessness and I know that some folks will never let term go away. Deservedly or not.

Well put. It has nothing to do with the Glock or the leg. If it did we would see a lot more police officers with a limp. I for one, don't carry a Glock, but many on this forum do every day without shooting themselves in the leg. Oh yeah, the media seems to think that every pistol is a Glock otherwise, we might be talking about Hipoint leg.

Shooting oneself in the leg while holstering is known as glockleg. I happen to like the term as it serves as a reminder of the hazard. Some people might not like it but that is the name commonly used for shooting oneself in the leg while holstering. It's just not as likely to happen with a 1911 or a SA/DA with a manual safety. It's a characteristic of the Glock and many other Striker fired handguns that don't have manual safeties. The Glock can be handled safely, but it is irresponsible not to recognize the particular hazards associated with them or any other weapon.

Skiprr wrote:

Bitter Clinger wrote:Except that the XD also has a grip safety!

And some have thumb safeties, as well.

Oh, and when holstering, I also don't recommend putting a thumb on the hammer of a 1911-style gun or any other pistol carried cocked-and-locked. Leave that hammer alone. Thumb-on-hammer would seem viable only for decocking pistols like the 92FS or 96G that are carried hammer-down.

I agree with you, My thought on the hammer was about ensuring that the hammer doesn't rise when holstered. A thumb on the hammer can only cause problems on an SA hammer up carry like a 1911 .

Dan20703 wrote:

Liberty wrote:

Dan20703 wrote:I always do but a friend of mine never carries with one in the chamber and will never do otherwise.

He used to carry that way but put a round through his leg while holstering his weapon once. Luckily it didn't hit any bone, cartilage, or major blood vessels.

This is what's called Glock leg. It can be avoided by not carrying a Glock, or any other weapon without a manual safety. It may also be avoided by really paying attention when holstering.
Given the choice of not carrying with one in the chamber, or not carrying a Glock or similar clone. I think the carrying a safer gun might be advised.

It was a Springfield XD .40 Cal

Same thing.

jsclark12 wrote:As a new LTC carrier and a Glock 19 and 43 owner, what would be your recommendation for avoiding Glock Leg? I use Alienwear OWB holsters primarily.

I'm careful to make sure that my finger is never near the trigger during holstering and also make sure the barrel does not hang when it is going in. I didn't know if there were other precautions that I should be following.

I've been following this forum since July, but today is my first time to post. This forum is a huge source of valuable information. Thanks to Mr. Cotton and the MVPs who post here.

Josh

The obvious way to avoid Glock leg is to not use a Glock or other gun without a safety and learn instinctively to operate the safety before holstering and clear it on the draw. With a hammer operated weapon keeping one's thumb on the hammer is a advised.

If one insist on carrying a Glock. I would advise to always be conscientious when holstering Make sure it has your complete attention and that the holster is clear of clothing and the holster is not collapsed. Always keep your finger clear of the trigger guard.

Dan20703 wrote:I always do but a friend of mine never carries with one in the chamber and will never do otherwise.

He used to carry that way but put a round through his leg while holstering his weapon once. Luckily it didn't hit any bone, cartilage, or major blood vessels.

This is what's called Glock leg. It can be avoided by not carrying a Glock, or any other weapon without a manual safety. It may also be avoided by really paying attention when holstering.
Given the choice of not carrying with one in the chamber, or not carrying a Glock or similar clone. I think the carrying a safer gun might be advised.