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Kerbouchard wrote:

barres wrote:

Liberty wrote:We had a Supreme court decision demanding that we have the RKBA .. They were unanimous in the decision that it is indeed a collective right. During most of our lives there wasn't a clear statement from our Supreme court.

I'm sure you meant that they ruled it was an individual right, correct?

It was not a unanimous decision. It was a 5-4 decision, and the other 4 specifically said that it was not an individual right. Either way, I agree with the rest of your post, but I see an AWB coming back. Probably not until after the 2010 or 2012 election, but it's coming.

I'm sorry for the confusion of course it was an individul right . but even dissenting opinion conceded also that it was an individual right. I thought that in itself was rather remarkable.

GaryAdrian wrote:I have been reading a lot of gun forums lately and I am amazed heart felt post on our rights to bear arms. Who was it that said, we never what we had until we lose it. I think that is the case here.
What rights have I lost from my childhood? Not just laws passed, but the respect and understanding of gun owners here in Texas.
When I was young, every other pickup truck had a gun rack in the back window. Did it cause fear and loathing? I don't think so. Today, I don't see any gun racks in any vehicles except police cars.
When I was young, it was nothing to put my Marlin .22 rifle on my shoulder and walk down the street to the woods near by and hunt birds or rabbit. Do that today and see what happins. The Police will be stopping you and may charge you for Disturbing the Peace.
When I was young, I could give a class report on my hunting trip with my dad and tell of the first deer I ever got and my gun I got for Christmas. . Now teachers call the police on the student as they did in Central Connecticut State University by a professor who reported one of her students to the police after he gave a class presentation on why students and teachers should be allowed to carry concealed weapons on campus. Now, free speech activists say the professor’s actions are what really need to be investigated.
Why do I feel today that I have to be careful on who I tell that I am a gun owner? If I own a gun, does that make me a nut or a criminal? Don't I trust the Police to protect me? Do guns have a place in our modern world?
I will argue that is does today more than ever. To lose a right is easy. Do nothing. To get it back may take a revolution. It's just not about guns, it about all of our Constitutional Rights and Freedoms we enjoy today because of our Founders and the Men and Women who gave all to defend those rights.
I don't care if you carry Open or Concealed, in your car or in your home, or not at all. You should have the rights that we were granted and those right should never be taken away by a select few.
Our world is full of fear and that fear is dictating actions that have been the downfall of many nations.
And I am afraid.
Afraid of losing the America that I love so much and all the freedoms she grants me.
I don't want to be bitter, but I will hang on to my guns and my faith. I will use the most powerful weapon I have to keep my America Free and For The People.
I VOTE!

It is legal to carry guns in a gunrack it is only fear of the bad guys that restrict us from doing so. I see things in the context of my life ime because it is the only reference that I fully understand. What I have seen is that early in my life we lost a lot of rights for a long time. but that in the last 15years we have started too swing the pendulum. We are gaining rights and losing very seldom.

When I moved to Texas in the 80s I lost my right to carry a hand on me I could carry one in my car but only under some very unclear conditions. Today the CHL program gives me the means to pack 24/7, We are allowed to carry in our cars if we meet a few simple condition.

We had an Assault weapons ban. it is gone. Attempts to restore another one at this time is laughable. Seems like even some Democrats understand the Right to Keep and Bear Arms lately. I remember a time not to long ago when gun control was a cause they could unite under.

We are real close to allowing students the abilty to go armed in our schools , Its been a very long time since we have been able to do this.

We had a Supreme court decision demanding that we have the RKBA .. They were unanimous in the decision that it is indeed a collective right. During most of our lives there wasn't a clear statement from our Supreme court.

We never lost the legal right to carry long guns in the open, I see it every year around deer season here in the big city. For the most part folks with pickup trucks lost interest in displaying their guns for the Gangbangers to admire during the rest of the year. Today most folks don't leave their fishing rods out for display either and that is legal too.

We now have the right to carry in National Parks for the first time in over 30 years.

We have a very leftist Speaker of the house showing restraint because of her respect (or fear) of the NRA.


I know a lot of folks get some pleasure at seeing a half empty glass, I know that we have a ways to go before we actually achieve a full RKBA ( shucks we got folks here who aren't crazy about the idea) I know we have the leftist in charge of things, but I think we need to understand how far we have come to understand exactly where we are so that we know where we need to go. If I look back 20 years from today, I see almost nothing but progress in our march forward with the concept of the RKBA . We still need to move forward. There are still threats to our rights that need to be fought off and new ones will be presented too us in the future but for time being we just aren't looking all that bad.