I hate entering into this discussion because so many Glock owners seem to get emotional when mention of Glocks that doesn't suggest they aren't the perfect blaster.G.C.Montgomery wrote:
While it's a valid complain that Glock triggers must be pressed before disassembly, let's not forget what happened in the case of the DEA agent because everything about the events leading up to the ND suggest that he an amateur shooter at best and most likely a typical, untrained idiot. The agent got his processes wrong, acted negligently and strummed a round off into his own foot. The gun worked as advertised and a manual safety would help only if it was engaged at the time he mindlessly pointed the gun at his foot and pulled the trigger.
"Glock Leg" is a cute term but lets be honest. Nearly all of such injuries are a result of negligence on the part of the operator. If it was simply a matter of not having manual safeties we'd have a phenomenon called "Revolver Leg" too. In the last twenty years, I've seen far more people (particularly LEOs) shoot themselves while holstering a pistol after forgetting to decock a DA/SA pistol and engage a safety. The only guns with which I've seen more such incidents were 1911s and Browning HiPowers. In nearly all cases, the problem started with idiots leaving their booger hooks on the bang switch as they attempted to holster the pistol. The few exceptions involved poorly designed thumb breaks that got inside the trigger guard. And I've lost count of how many of those shooters realized they'd forgotten to engage the manual safety or otherwise thought it was engaged when it was not.
I have viewed the film several times, and its never been clear to me whether it was a finger, holster component, or an article of clothing that pulled the trigger. It is painfully obvious that he was negligent and fully responsible for the incident, It doesn't take away from the fact that if there was a manual safety (and, yes, if it was activated ) We wouldn't be discussing this incident today.
You bring up a good point. Holstering a single action with safety disabled is dangerous. I think range rulest drawings again and strict SOs in IPDA prevent a lot of this from happening. Frankly I haven't heard much of these incidents but we seldom really get the real story behind NDs. Most of us SA/DA owners have experienced the Safety toggling off after being holstered. but by this time though the gun has been decocked. me dI've never used a 1911 except under very supervised conditions and haven't thought much about the important issues you brought up. Every style of gun has its specific safety issues and it is important to recognize these issues on any gun we choose to carry.
I have purposely observed you state this NUMEROUS times about this particular brand of handgun. I am still waiting on this same argument to be presented for the many other handguns without a manual safety. If you can point to one of your posts that says the same about a S&W M&P I will shut up and apologize. 