How would that be useful to the public? Assuming the guys were Houston residents there are 4 Million people that didn't do it. The robbers were wearing hoodies and bandanas, their ethnicity may not have been obvious and could have been contridictory from the witnesses.Oldgringo wrote:
You may be right, knowing the perp's race would not be an identifier. OTOH, knowing the perp's race would tell you who Did Not do the foul deed.
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- Sun Feb 01, 2009 9:13 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Armed robbery of 40-50 people
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- Sun Feb 01, 2009 8:38 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: Armed robbery of 40-50 people
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I don't believe that knowing the race would be all that helpful. If there were a good description maybe, but even that without a sketch or photo is pretty useless. I suppose it might make some people feel better when they can claim that "It was one of those _____________ (fill in the blank with a favorite racial epithet ) that did it."Kawabuggy wrote:A couple of things cross my mind about this...
If you listen to the reporter, employees inside the restaurant ran into the freezer and dialed 911 as the gun men entered the building.. Then the reporter says the event lasted 5 minutes. FIVE FULL MINUTES! This proves beyond a doubt that when seconds count, the cops are minutes away. I'm not knocking the police, they have a very tough job to do and are really spread thin here in Houston. However, the fact remains-five full minutes this encounter went on, and then the perps had time to leave the building, and still no cops around.
One other thing I wanted everyone to give thought to... Of those 40-50 people no one could identify the race of the suspects?
If anyone reading this believes that, let me shake you and wake you up to reality. Somebody, or many somebody's inside that restaurant know what the perpetrators race is. Is it just a Houston thing where the news REFUSES to identify the race of criminals? Why is this? If a criminal is on the loose, I think the more relevant information about that person(s) given to the public, the better chance of catching these guys. But yet, Houston news stations, and The Houston Crapicle (Chronicle) REFUSE to tell you this information. Are they afraid they will get sued for discrimination or what? I don't get it.
- Tue Jan 27, 2009 7:02 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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Lots of restaurants have different angles and rooms where one couldn't see the whole scenario breaking loose.KD5NRH wrote:If your situational awareness is that bad, you'll still be asking what the loud noises were when the cops are finishing up the investigation.03Lightningrocks wrote:Crowded restaurant...so maybe they won't notice you. Maybe i would not notice them,
- Sun Jan 25, 2009 9:40 am
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
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As I see it all the good guys got out with no additional holes. This situation wasn't going to end up much better than it did. It could have gone a lot worse. I personally wouldn't fear for myself as much as I would be for those I was with. As I see it 2 men with guns are going to make some holes in people in a crowded restaurant once the shooting begins. Most of us don't dine alone. The people that I dine with so not pack. I would assume that shooting rapidly at both targets at least one of them would be able to get shots off meaning that either I or my dinner companions would likely be shot. I suppose one should be prepared to shoot if there is an opportunity. But the 2 to one odds in a crowded restaurant has a lot going against it. None of us were there and we really don't know what opportunitys there were to take the offence. Its just that I don't see a lot of opportunity.AEA wrote:Agreed. A Felonious threat of deadly force justifies a reciprocal action. The only question in this instance is when to take that action.
This incident struck a little close to home for me. I was returning from a trip Friday with my wife and SIL I was unarmed. We stopped and dined at a place on Westhiemer. There was a lot of police activity 1/2 block down when we left. Turns out this incident was 10 miles down the road , but makes you think. Makes me realize I don't like going out without a gun.
- Sat Jan 24, 2009 9:05 pm
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And the people that you are dinning with. What about them?Aggie_engr wrote:Having a gun pointed in your face isn't enough of a percieved threat to defend yourself? I know it sure is for me. Drop to one knee and shoot up or something. It's not enough just to give your stuff up these days, its possible you will still be shot. I bet just a shot in their direction would be enough to run them off?
