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by Liberty
Tue Nov 04, 2008 5:03 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Wichita Falls Officer Shot by Homeowner
Replies: 47
Views: 6940

Re: Wichita Falls Officer Shot by Homeowner

Excaliber wrote: I confess I kinda wonder about folks who feel a need to run outside and chase every raccoon, skunk and armadillo out of their yards with gun in hand, or blast 'em to protect their turf. I enjoy watching the little critters myself.

The trick here is in being right every time about the source of the noise. The time you think it's a raccoon and go out to do the night ninja thing on your own and run into an armed burglar, you could try saying "oops!" and ask for a do-over, but I wouldn't put any money on a positive outcome.
If one has a garden or chickens you won't have them long if you don't protect it. I agree that shooting the critters is not a prime choice. Loud noises rocks or even an air gun can be pretty effective.

If One were afraid to go out into their own back yard after dark, because of a noise, I would assume its even more dangerous to venture away from our own property at night. I just think it is a sad condition if one becomes this afraid of the dark. I don't believe stepping into ones yard are going out into the evening is being a night ninja, I call it living a normal healthy life. I heard noises in back yard all the time, and I never felt like I was in danger, and just as important, I never put anyone else in danger that didn't need to be.

Maybe There are boggymen out in my back yard, but If they keep me so afraid that I can't even v enture out into own backyard, thaenb they have already killed a little piece of me.
by Liberty
Tue Nov 04, 2008 2:12 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Wichita Falls Officer Shot by Homeowner
Replies: 47
Views: 6940

Re: Wichita Falls Officer Shot by Homeowner

Doug.38PR wrote: Whether I call the police before or after I assess the situation depends on 100 different things. Whether I go outside or stay inside because I percieve it to be the best tactic also depends on 100 different things. Man has been protecting his hearth, home and land for 4000 years. Policemen are an invention of the mid 19th century. We have to take chances in life every day. Sometimes it means going outside to investigate an unusual bump in the night. There may be more than one, you've got to prepare for that. They may or may not be armed. They may or may not be ready for you.
I guess I was born in a different time , but I was raised to take care of myself and whats mine. Some might call the cops every time a Racoon gets into their garden because they are just to frightened to take care of things themselves. I really cant understand how folks can be so afraid to check out their own back yards. Maybe its a different neigborhoods. These are interesting times. I do believe I do have a bigger understanding why our taxes are so high and our police are so busy. If we are to call the cops every time we here a noise or hear a dog bark we sure do need a lot of cops.



Now if i actually see someone, Its probably a good idea to call for re-enforcements.
by Liberty
Sun Nov 02, 2008 4:21 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Wichita Falls Officer Shot by Homeowner
Replies: 47
Views: 6940

Re: Wichita Falls Officer Shot by Homeowner

Excaliber wrote:
Liberty wrote:Or they can rob you blind of anything you have in your back yard! I will not let badguys have free run of my property just because it is dark.
I solve that problem by not keeping anything worth dying for in my backyard.
I have very little worth dying for, but I'm not willing to let just anyone take anything away from me without a fight. At certain times in my life I have put myself at risk for other peoples stuff. I don't mind doing it for my own stuff. Although I believe in taking steps to minimize the risk. If I ever get to afraid to check out my own property, I should probably give up that property and move someplace safer. I understand that some might feel different. But I believe if I'm willing to let folks steal my stuff sure as heck someone will take my stuff.

So far one has killed me yet. :biggrinjester:
by Liberty
Sun Nov 02, 2008 8:02 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Wichita Falls Officer Shot by Homeowner
Replies: 47
Views: 6940

Re: Wichita Falls Officer Shot by Homeowner

Excaliber wrote: If the noise is outside and can't be positively identified as a threat, your best course of action is to stay inside and monitor the situation. It will either develop into an identifiable threat with a clear set of options and you in a solid tactical position in a building interior you can effectively control, or it will fade away. There's seldom much of an immediate threat to your safety when a potential threat is still outside and you're inside. If a threat can be identified while it is still outside (either by sound or by going the low tech route of looking out your windows), it's time to call for the cavalry and take up an armed defensive position with preparations to safely stop an intrusion if it occurs.

If you go outside, you put yourself at high risk, severely complicate the situation for responding officers, and leave the rest of the family undefended inside. The recent tragic shooting of the newlywed who did this in Anaheim, CA serves as an excellent reminder of just how badly this can go. I don't see an upside to this tactic in a suburban environment, with the exception of a situation where a deadly attack on an innocent party is actually in progress outside and immediate intervention will make the difference between survival and severe injury or death for the victim.
Or they can rob you blind of anything you have in your back yard! I will not let badguys have free run of my property just because it is dark.

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