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frankie_the_yankee wrote:

Liberty wrote: Thats not exactly true., We as CHL holders in Texas have a right to carry into and onto private property, until or unless we are informed by the terms of 30.06.

Or just flat told to leave.

Liberty wrote: We are under no obligation to be forth coming about our armed status when we enter private property.

So you're saying that we have "the right" to do something as long as the property owner doesn't know about it, and if they find out they can throw us out.

Well sorta,
The property owner doesn't have ask. They could post a 30.06 sign. or hand out written notice. Or just inform the visitor that if they are packing they aren't welcome on the property. We as CHLers are under no obligation to announce to that we are packing when when we enter someones property. It wouldn't be concealed would it? As you mention later, any property owner can throw a visitor out for just about any reason.

frankie_the_yankee wrote: What kind of right is that?

I suppose its the rights assigned to us for being Texas citizens. Unfortunately its different in every other state.

frankie_the_yankee wrote: Is that how the right to freedom of religion works?

I don't know what freedom of religion has to do with this discussion, but I wouldn't allow a Koran into my home, , and my church won't tolerate buttocks in the air type prayer either.

frankie_the_yankee wrote: Is that how the right to enter a restaurant, use a public swimming pool or drinking fountain, or take the seat of our choice on a bus works? If the bus company finds out you're half Inuit, can they throw you off the bus or make you take a seat in the back?

Any right to carry a firearm in pubic in this state is a limited one that is created by specific statutes.

One can argue forever as to whether or not it actually is a right (not the same as whether or not it should be), or what a right is, etc. But the fact remains that carrying a firearm is not enumerated as defining a protected class in any civil rights law that I know of, either in TX or anywhere else.

So you have no constitutional right to carry a gun in a public accommodation against the wishes of the owner/operator. And in TX, there is no statutory right either. If the owner/operator says, "No shirt, no shoes, no service.", or, "You and your gun have to leave now.", out you go or you're gonna get arrested.

I don't see an arguement here. I was just clarifying the rights of the property owner and the CHL holder. I never claimed there was a constitutional right to carry. Just a Texan right of law. That I have a right to carry under my CHL into private property until the owner/operator informs me under 30.06. Him stating "You and your gun have to leave now." is proper 30.06 notification. The law is pretty clear on this, and I really don't understand the confusion. HTH

frankie_the_yankee wrote:No one has a right, constitutional, civil, or whatever, to carry a gun on someone else's private property.

Thats noit exactly true., We as CHL holders in Texas have a right to carry into and onto private property, until or unless we are informed by the terms of 30.06. We are under no obligation to be forth coming about our armed status when we enter private property.

hkshooter wrote: However, if you own a private business, you are not allowed to single out based on gender, race, handicap, religion, or age.

Depends Gender is often catered to or discriminated.
Hooters doesn't hire many male waitpersons.
Curves won't let men in their place.

There is housing that only allows senior citizens.