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by terryg
Fri Oct 29, 2010 4:02 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Let's have a Personal Defense ammo discussion
Replies: 58
Views: 11439

Re: Let's have a Personal Defense ammo discussion

Katygunnut wrote:To answer the original question, my SD ammo is:

9 MM - 147 grain Ranger SXT
Where do you get your SXT from?
by terryg
Wed Oct 27, 2010 10:01 am
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Let's have a Personal Defense ammo discussion
Replies: 58
Views: 11439

Re: Let's have a Personal Defense ammo discussion

UpTheIrons wrote:
terryg wrote:ETA: Much of what I have read claim that the SXT is pretty much the same bullet as the Black Talon that Winchester was forced to pull due to 'public outcry'.
IIRC, Winchester never really "pulled" the Black Talon. They just changed the color (from black to copper by removing the Lubalox coating) and gave it a new name (SXT) after 'tweaking' it to make it even better.
That's what it seems. In fact, the joke seems to be that SXT stands for "Same eXact Thing" as Black Talon. I just found this the wikipedia article confirming many of the rumors I have read:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Talon" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

According to this, it has been renamed Ranger T-series. Maybe that is why I have had such a hard time finding it. Where do you get yours?
by terryg
Tue Oct 26, 2010 1:03 pm
Forum: General Gun, Shooting & Equipment Discussion
Topic: Let's have a Personal Defense ammo discussion
Replies: 58
Views: 11439

Re: Let's have a Personal Defense ammo discussion

I am currently working on this same question myself. I have heard and read good things about the Winchester Ranger SXT line. Specifically about it being a good performing JHP for the price point. I can't find it locally, however, and have not yet ordered any online.

Most of the SD ammo people talk about seem to run about $1 or more per round in 9mm. The SXT (either the '147gr' or the '+P+ 115gr') seems to run closer to 50 cents per round in 9mm. I don't want every decision to be about money. But if I can get the same performance in a round that cost half as much, it seems like a winner to me.

But I am still doing research - I appreciate your question HarleyDave! :thumbs2:

ETA: Much of what I have read claim that the SXT is pretty much the same bullet as the Black Talon that Winchester was forced to pull due to 'public outcry'.

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