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by terryg
Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:19 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?
Replies: 99
Views: 12634

Re: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?

JayCee wrote:So, despite my description of the events you assume by my subsequent postings (in which you freely admit I was set upon) that I caused the problems I posted about? Please tell me you're not a DA or prosocution Attny!
I didn't agree that you were 'set upon'. I don't think there was collusion or other intentional malice. I think, simply, that the tolerance for continuing a discussion thread (i.e. point, counter point) is sometimes set a bit low here - to the detriment of civility and the eventual peaceful resolution of differing opinions.

I am neither DA or defense. I merely attempt to stand-up for what I feel is right in each circumstance. I guess, in your case, at best I am witness ...
by terryg
Wed Sep 15, 2010 2:15 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?
Replies: 99
Views: 12634

Re: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?

Ok, but before this gets locked for good - and to end on a positive note, let me quote the best line from the whole thread ...

The Annoyed Man wrote:Now, I say all of that knowing that it is darn hard not to be scared in those kinds of situations - been there myself, and maybe just a little pee came out.
"rlol" "rlol"

Thanks TAM!! As always.

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by terryg
Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:52 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?
Replies: 99
Views: 12634

Re: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?

JayCee wrote:Well that's too bad you feel that way, honestly. I came here with good intentions
I sincerely thought that this might have been the case - and I think that some posters were a bit short in the beginning. I was hoping this might be a case to demonstrate that de-escalation can be as helpful in this forum as it is in the wide wild world.

I understand that you feel ganged up on. But I cannot defend your replies - especially your most recent ones. You are only proving true the original remarks that your attitude is likely is what got you into the predicaments you described and yet you remain oblivious to it and attempt to maintain your perceived victim status.

And yet, if I am honest with myself, I am mostly saddened at losing the example case I attempted to make.
by terryg
Wed Sep 15, 2010 1:34 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?
Replies: 99
Views: 12634

Re: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?

bdickens wrote:You're planning on getting banned, aren't you?
Yeah, I feel somewhat ashamed that I stuck up for him a little in the other thread. I do think that our forum can be quick to label new people sometimes and, IMO, that helped escalate the tone in this case. But it seems that he had a date with inevitability and intends on making it - one way or the other.
by terryg
Mon Sep 13, 2010 2:42 pm
Forum: New to CHL?
Topic: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?
Replies: 99
Views: 12634

Re: Pulling weapon to diffuse a road rage scenario?

Keith B wrote:Not flaming here, but the choice you made in the first scenario was totally a bad one. Calling 911 is the FIRST thing you do. Your best bet is to stay in your car, and drive normally. If possible, you should pull into an area where there are plenty of witnesses and let them decide if they want to abandon their aggressiveness or continue. If they get out of their vehicle and head at yours, unless they have something in their hand to be able to gain entry to your car or to harm you in some way, then they will NOT be able to hurt you through a rolled-up window. If they do try to force entry into your car, THEN you can prepare to use force if necessary to stop the threat.

And on the second scenario, NO, you would not be justified.

Again, not flaming here, and not sure if you have your CHL, but I feel your posts indicate you may need to review the rules and laws on the threat and use of deadly force. Carrying a pistol for defense is a VERY serious matter and must be treated as such, and knowing the rules of when to use it and when to not use it, as well as situation deescalation techniques is imperative..
:iagree: Yes, I concur completely. Based upon the information as you have presented it, in the first situation, I think you put yourself a great legal risk for any number of possible scenarios. Despite the aggressor role of the other driver - if he, upon seeing you weapon, swerved to get away and caused a deadly accident - it would not be a leap for a DA (and a jury) to find you culpable. Especially if the other driver survives the crash and can describe your weapon. And that is just one of any number of scenarios that can be imagined.

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