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o b juan wrote:I knew about the UNfunded mandates that is what the 791,000 per tax payer (not Illegals, Welfare recepients, those4 on disability) is all about.

There is only How many tax payers at this time Maybe 90 million at this time I am guessing, out of 300,250,000

Well, the numbers vary within a range. I've seen that figure as high as $1.2 million PER PERSON. Here's one source: http://www.redstate.com/2013/02/20/why- ... abilities/ .....and based on only $127 Trillion....data is over two years old, latest numbers I've seen are all over $200 Trillion.

While $16.5 trillion of debt is clearly unsustainable, what is even more alarming is what we are not talking about: The fact that, in addition to the $16.5 trillion of debt we currently have, every man, woman, and child in America also is on the hook for nearly $400,000 in unfunded liabilities–or, over $1 million for every household.

dale blanker wrote:

o b juan wrote:From Dale Blanker""t at least we don't have Greece's problems (debt vs GDP-wise). Please enlighten me.

OK
our debt now stands @18.3 trillion

Our GDP Now stands @17.8 trillion

and today each taxpayer owes if I remember correctly 791,000 (Taxpayers)

What is greeces debt to gdp Dale ?

Go to google and type in U S Govt Debt there are some #s that wil make your guts cramp

Sure glad to, Obi Juan, see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_c ... ernal_debt" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false; Sorry our debt is worse than you thought, but you asked...

By the way, Greek unemployment rate is greater than 25% - I suspect Baldeagle would prefer the 30s (as well as the 20s) when our unemployment rate was like that. At least there was much greater freedom to starve. Go see "Grapes of Wrath" to get cheered up.

The official government unemployment rate is complete unadulterated hooey. Please.....the government has been playing games with the stats ever since Clinton. If you believe the 8% number or whatever is being claimed at the moment...contact me....I've got some great bridge investments in Brooklyn I'll hook you up with.

o b juan wrote:From Dale Blanker""t at least we don't have Greece's problems (debt vs GDP-wise). Please enlighten me.

OK
our debt now stands @18.3 trillion

Our GDP Now stands @17.8 trillion

and today each taxpayer owes if I remember correctly 791,000 (Taxpayers)

What is greeces debt to gdp Dale ?

Go to google and type in U S Govt Debt there are some #s that wil make your guts cramp

Way low on actual debt, which includes unfunded liabilities and is now around $238 TRILLION. Anyone who thinks our economy is in good shape and our debt isn't bad is either not paying attention or delusional.

http://www.silverdoctors.com/niall-ferg ... -trillion/

A-R wrote:Trump's 15 minutes are up. McCain's military credentials and bravery speak for themselves.

Anyone who votes for Trump or any other third-party candidate is actually voting "for" Hillary and is no friend of mine.

There is no room for pettiness and error this time, folks. Vote for the Republican candidate - no matter who it is - as the lone means of preventing Hillary sitting in the Oval Office. The stakes are too high. Spare me the RINO whining and political purity tests. Defeat Hillary by any means necessary. Period.

What stakes? Nah, anyone voting for the Republican candidate this time around is voting to endorse more of the same. Not gonna change a thing. It isn't gong to matter whether Hitlery wins or an establishment candidate calling himself a Republican wins. No one who will upset the apple cart will be allowed to run for either party. The end result is going to be exactly the same, just maybe a little faster with Hitlery, but minus all the pretense. The country is finished and cannot be saved at the ballot box. All that's left now is state and local level...states withdrawing their consent from the federal government, and once the inevitable economic collapse occurs, possibly secession.