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Scott B. wrote:I'm not quite ready to be fitted for the tin foil.

Do I think the current administration would love to do it? Yes.

Have they? You'd need budget, personnel, servers, space, outside contractors, etc., just to get a project of that scale up and running -- all while knowing that it was explicitly forbidden by law. Such a database is no small task given the volume of transactions.

The various agencies have enough trouble keeping the secrets they're authorized to keep. I don't think an enterprise that comes with complementary bracelets and a trip to club fed would survive for very long. The other branches--or even subsequent administrations--would tear that conspiracy apart with a great deal of delight.

I think you're remembering the America of my childhood. At the Federal level the rule of law is dead in this country. The law only applies now to us peons (excepting illegal aliens of course). Subsequent administrations? What subsequent administrations? Whatever Bush started The One has not only continued but expanded. The 2014 election just proved it doesn't matter who you vote for or who is nominally in power. Nothing is going to change for the better after the 2016 election either. The administration just ordered the Border Patrol not to arrest illegal aliens crossing the border right in front of them (or more accurately, told the rank and file that they'd be wasting their time, since the higher ups will order their release anyway). How's that for law enforcement? The law is no longer relevant to those in power. This administration has broken all kinds of laws and continues to do so without consequence. No one in a position of authority is the least concerned about complementary bracelets or club Fed.

This is a police state. You just haven't yet experienced the boot on your neck. There is no longer any impediment by law, tradition, or honor. The only institution left in this country with enough integrity to be worth preserving is the military. You think a government that puts Martha Stewart in prison and won't even try John Corazine is a government that has any concern about the law? The Rubicon of totalitarianism has already been crossed. The law doesn't apply to "them" it is merely a tool to control and punish "us."

The Annoyed Man wrote:

Scott B. wrote:The only firearms information submitted on a NICS check is the weapon type (pistol, rifle, shotgun) , not serial number.

FWIW: http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/nics/g ... fact-sheet" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

"The NICS is not to be used to establish a federal firearm registry; information about an inquiry resulting in an allowed transfer is destroyed in accordance with NICS regulations. Current destruction of NICS records became effective when a final rule was published by the Department of Justice in The Federal Register, outlining the following changes. Per Title 28, Code of Federal Regulations, Part 25.9(b)(1), (2), and (3), the NICS Section must destroy all identifying information on allowed transactions prior to the start of the next NICS operational day. If a potential purchaser is delayed or denied a firearm and successfully appeals the decision, the NICS Section cannot retain a record of the overturned appeal."

Yeah but....

The NICS is a national system that checks available records on persons who may be disqualified from receiving firearms. The FBI developed the system through a cooperative effort with the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives (ATF) and local and state law enforcement agencies. The NICS is a computerized background check system designed to respond within 30 seconds on most background check inquiries so the FFLs receive an almost immediate response. Depending on the willingness of state governments to act as a liaison for the NICS, the FFLs contact either the FBI or a designated state Point of Contact (POC) to initiate background checks on individuals purchasing or redeeming firearms. The background check process, as performed by the FBI and by state POCs, is described below.

A 3rd grade classroom scene somewhere in America....

• Now, children, what department is the FBI part of? That's right..... the Justice Department!
  
  And who is the head of the Justice Department? Right again!!! Attorney General Eric Holder! Yes Johnny, that's right. Eric Holder has been the head of the Justice department since early 2009.
  
  You're such good students that you can all have one cookie. ........OK, that's enough..... JOHNNY!!!! You put that second cookie back right now!!!
  
  Now kids, which one of you thinks that Eric Holder believes grownups shouldn't have guns? All of you? You're all doing so well today.
  
  Children, did you know that Eric Holder, the head of the Justice Department, has actually broken gun laws himself before? Did you know that he also broke other laws by trying to hide it? Yes, kids, he did. He called it Operation Fast and Furious, and believe it or not, he deliberately allowed criminals to buy guns! Isn't that incredible?
  
  And do you know what else, kids? When he got caught, he got his pal Barry to hide the evidence for him. Who's Barry? Oh, he's that guy we all call "Mr. President". Can you say "president"? I knew you could.
  
  And children, Barry also thinks that the government should know which Americans have guns, just in case we have to take those guns away from them. I know..... it's crazy isn't it?

Now, which one of you grownups in the room still thinks that the FBI hasn't been storing NICS requests, even though it is illegal?

Of course they are. That's one of the benefits of having a CHL....they don't call in for a background check when you buy a gun. They have to come to the store to see the 4473.