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03Lightningrocks wrote:

VMI77 wrote:..."Abraham"........ People will replace their incandescent bulbs when it makes sense to them to do so. I'm blown away by how many people today want the government to make decisions for them --or perhaps more accurately, want the government to make the decision for others when it's a decision they like for themselves.

I would not want to speculate on the savings in light bulbs vs the savings in vehicles but I can tell you that it made a sizable difference in my electric bill when I changed to CFL. I have a couple rooms where turning a light switch on ignites a new generator at the power plant...LOL. My 75 watt bulbs are now using 13 watts but still providing the same amount of light as the incandescent bulbs.

LAYGO wrote:

VMI77 wrote:

ss1088 wrote:Say what you will about government interference in the bulb market, it has led to some pretty neat technology in the LED market that would not have happened for many years otherwise. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Prices will become more reasonable as the years go on. We have already seen some major cuts in this market as the manufactures and engineers have been figuring out ways to cut cost.

If you really want to stick with incandescent, you will probably be able to find them if you are creative enough.

Seriously? You support the government taking away our choices and rationalize it based on an assumption of some future benefit? I hope you like Volts and Prius's because the logic of banning incandescent bulbs justifies banning SUVs and pickup trucks as well. Of course, it's unlikely, because that won't help Detroit's bottom line, and they're unlikely to lobby for it. And the logic that the government has a right to tell you what technology you must use is pretty close to the same logic that the gun grabbers use to justify banning semi-auto rifles.

Not that I don't agree with the "legislating a choice", but the difference in efficiency of energy consumed between a car/truck vs prius/volt IS NOT AS GREAT as incadescent vs CFL/LED. Somethings just make sense, especially if we want to eliminate our dependence on foreign oil.

ss1088 wrote:Say what you will about government interference in the bulb market, it has led to some pretty neat technology in the LED market that would not have happened for many years otherwise. Necessity is the mother of invention.

Prices will become more reasonable as the years go on. We have already seen some major cuts in this market as the manufactures and engineers have been figuring out ways to cut cost.

If you really want to stick with incandescent, you will probably be able to find them if you are creative enough.

LAYGO wrote:Not only uses less energy, but the CFL/LED bulbs make better use of the energy consumed, where as an incandescent bulb converts about 95% (!!!!) of it's energy as heat, not light.

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Incandescent bulbs are much less efficient than most other types of lighting; most incandescent bulbs convert less than 5% of the energy they use into visible light[1] (with the remaining energy being converted into heat).

rotor wrote:Another example of government mandated stupidity. Saves electricity but you pay a ton more for the bulbs and with fluorescents you have the mercury to deal with as previously noted. Remember when freon was banned? Of course that was only in this country but the whole world was still using it. Cost Americans a ton of money. Then there is ethanol for fuel. Mandated use that ruins older engines, most boats can't handle the ethanol, drives up food costs because corn is the source. Of course Archers Daniels Crooks love it. Then there are wind turbines that cost more to actually build than they will ever create in energy- of course we give them tax credits. Eagles killed by wind turbines are acceptable but birds killed near a refinery are taboo. It goes on and on. A government out of control. You can't even get a decent toilet bowl anymore.

TLE2 wrote:...that last significantly longer, use less electricity for the same light output.