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Chaparral wrote:I spent most of the '90's in the UK. Burglary, car theft, assault, pick-pocketing, and robbery are far higher than in the US. Firearms are rarely used in such crimes, but knives, clubs, cricket bats, bottles, brass knuckles and fists commonly are. The justice system was broken; habitual offender burglers and car thieves commonly received 6 to 12 month sentences, even after 10+ convictions. If you were assaulted on the street and tried to defend yourself with any type of weapon (pocket knife, pepper spray, walking cane, tennis racket), you would likely end up serving more time in jail than your assailant. You are less likely to be shot in the UK, but you are far more likely to be a crime victim.

Dave2 wrote:

VMI77 wrote:recently, for instance, they allowed a group of Muslim men to rape young girls because they felt arrest and prosecution would defame the Muslim community.

Wait, what?!? Downplaying crimes and omitting statistics is one thing, but you're saying they stood by and allowed gang rape(s) to happen?

Police and social workers were last night accused of failing to investigate an Asian paedophile gang for fear of being perceived as racist, allowing them to prey on up to 50 young white girls.

CHLLady wrote:The whole of the UK can fit into Texas over 2 and a half times!! Most Brits have no concept of how large America really is.

They can claim all they want and Pierce Morgan can run his mouth about our guns. But my point will always fall back to this recent mass shooting in England while we were living there!

Their police let this guy go on his shooting rampage for HOURS because they were NOT armed and had to wait for special police to come from large cities to get this guy. They found him when he finally killed himself. This is their mass shooting by a man with a shot gun! NOT an AR 15, and not a handgun, which are banned! This guy drove around shooting innocent people for hours. It was horrific. So yes, it does happen even in the UK.

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I believe a lot of their crime is being committed by immigrants. I've been reading a lot about immigrants committing horrible crimes there in the UK and because they are EU citizens they are not shipped back. One guy recently raped several women, he was from Poland with a long violent past. Women in the UK have no way to defend themselves, except with martial arts, if they're lucky. If someone breaks into your house and you kill them, even if they are armed, you will go to jail.

I actually love England and met some wonderful lifelong friends. They are very fortunate that their way of life is the way it is. I could live there very happily, but I will never understand their politics and their need for such extreme political correctness. And it really broke my heart to find that Scots are even more liberal than the English. I often thought of them as being more like Texans, conservative and eager to take a stand. But when they let the Lockerbie bomber go, I lost a lot of respect for their parliament.