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by VMI77
Thu May 02, 2013 10:22 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility
Replies: 66
Views: 12116

Re: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility

The Annoyed Man wrote:
baldeagle wrote:
Rex B wrote:
VMI77 wrote:
And unlike what happened in WW2, there will be no "America" to escape to. When there is nowhere to run it's fight or submit.
There wasn't any escape to America for Jews then. We turned them away by the boatloads before and after the war.

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php ... d=10007094" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

http://www.ushmm.org/wlc/en/article.php ... d=10005267" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Never forget
To our everlasting shame. And we did the same to the Vietnamese people. America has plenty of sins to atone for.
And today, we'll send a family back to Germany to face prison for {{{gasp!!}}} HOME SCHOOLING THEIR CHILDREN!!! But on the flip side of that, we make sanctuary cities for illegals, get them on the public dole as fast as possible, and encourage them to vote illegally.

That's why democrats (and how) are killing this country.

And let's not forget the Russians we sent back to be murdered by Stalin. And oh yeah.....there are no more "illegals," they're now to be called "undocumented Democrats."
by VMI77
Wed May 01, 2013 11:15 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility
Replies: 66
Views: 12116

Re: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility

Ziran wrote:That article asks the wrong question.

The right question is:

What will do you when they come for your Neighbor's Guns ?

If the answer is nothing then it does not matter what you will do when they come for your guns.

This article is also very relevant to this discussion (and highly worth reading):

http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2013-04-2 ... ng-save-us" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
And so it is today. Washington is an unfettered beast. The system will NOT fix itself; the mechanisms to do that were lost a long time ago
Standing up against a beast like Washington DC is scary, to be sure. Understandably, not many people want to do such a thing. But if the beast is abusing you, what other choice do you have? You can certainly avoid or evade the beast, but we all know that the beast hurts people it catches avoiding it, so the risk of doing this isn’t zero either.

So, what’s a person to do? They hate their abuse, but outright disobedience would be scary. Unfortunately, many people have come up with a third option: Get someone else to do it for you.

Lots of writers have done this, for example: Write flamboyantly about the abuses people face and stir them to “rise up against the power.” Fairly seldom does the writer take big risks himself – he just stirs up others to do the scary stuff.
No one is going to ride in and save you.

If you want things to get better, then YOU will have to make them better. YOU will have to stand up and take the arrows, yourself. Liberty, at this stage of human development, requires risk and pain.
And unlike what happened in WW2, there will be no "America" to escape to. When there is nowhere to run it's fight or submit.
by VMI77
Tue Apr 30, 2013 4:35 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility
Replies: 66
Views: 12116

Re: If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility

E10 wrote:You may, by the letter and spirit of the constitution, have a right to fight, but you should understand that's a battle you're almost sure to lose, with up to fatal results. The cops or the feds are going to be better staffed, armed, and equipped than you are. Better to let them take your guns (those they can find, anyway) and fight the battle in the courts. It'll give Mr. Cotton something to do. The right to keep and bear arms doesn't mean much if you're not alive to exercise it.
I think your statement is the product of "normalcy bias" --basically that things will continue more or less as they are now. Right now, if you as an individual have your guns confiscated you can probably get them back in court, and yes, it would be stupid to commit suicide. But if the government is conducting mass confiscations in the wake of a gun ban then we will be under a government that recognizes no limits to its power and the choice will be between liberty and slavery. Personally, I'd rather die on my feet than live on my knees. Life is just not more important to me than my freedom. I'm way oversimplifying, and I'm sure the choices won't be so clear, but even if the choice is submit or die, I will die. If enough of us share this attitude then the attempted tyranny will fail, and perhaps never get started, even if a lot of us die in the process.

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