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by VMI77
Thu Mar 14, 2013 2:44 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Shumer’s gun transfer ban flypaper felonies
Replies: 42
Views: 4788

Re: Shumer’s gun transfer ban flypaper felonies

RoyGBiv wrote:I'm not trying to excuse Schumers bill, I find it disgusting that a US Senator of any color would propose such a thing.
But I also find it not-useful to intentionally misrepresent its' contents to create misplaced anger.
It makes us (those who would oppose the bill) seem like the idiots the Left tries to portray us as.

Here's the teeth of it...
http://www.judiciary.senate.gov/legisla ... B13180.pdf" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Under this bill...
1. Temporary possession ("loaning") is allowed at shooting ranges
2. Temporary possession ("loaning") is allowed for hunting
3. Transfer between close relatives is allowed
shall not apply to
(A) bona fide gifts between spouses, between
parents and their children, between siblings, or be-
tween grandparents and their grandchildren;
And let's not forget... Without "Registration", none of this is possible. And registration is illegal.
Of those items in the OP, it seems to me, only this statement says anything misleading: If you lend a gun to someone for to try out at the range, provide a loaner for a student in training, let your son shoot a rifle you purchased while hunting, or provide a gun to a woman for self-defense, you’ve committed a felony. 5 years in prison for each of you.

And not all of it...only the parts highlighted in red. As worded, I couldn't have a friend come over and use one of my guns to target shoot or plink on my own property.
by VMI77
Thu Mar 14, 2013 9:56 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Shumer’s gun transfer ban flypaper felonies
Replies: 42
Views: 4788

Re: Shumer’s gun transfer ban flypaper felonies

JALLEN wrote:There is absolutely no way any such law could pass, or pass Constitutional muster.

I don't know about that anymore. They're only one SC justice short. In any case, it is insight into their disposition and lack of character and integrity. They want to put a productive citizen in prison for five years for letting a friend shoot a gun he doesn't own, and on the gun owner's own private property. They'd let an armed robber who assaulted someone off with less time in prison, but they want to make a productive citizen a felon and destroy him and his family for what amounts to a thought crime. Anyone who votes for this is not only a traitor but a despicable excuse for a human being.
by VMI77
Wed Mar 13, 2013 4:50 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Shumer’s gun transfer ban flypaper felonies
Replies: 42
Views: 4788

Shumer’s gun transfer ban flypaper felonies

http://www.bob-owens.com/2013/03/prelud ... nsfer-ban/

If you leave home for more than 7 days and leave anyone at home, that becomes a felony illegal transfer. 5 years in prison for each of you.
if you take a friend shooting and allow him to fire your gun, that is a felony illegal transfer. 5 years in prison for each of you.
If you have a gun lost or stolen and don’t report it within 24 hours, you’ve committed a felony. 5 years in prison.
If you lend a gun to someone for to try out at the range, provide a loaner for a student in training, let your son shoot a rifle you purchased while hunting, or provide a gun to a woman for self-defense, you’ve committed a felony. 5 years in prison for each of you.

http://www.pagunblog.com/2013/03/12/we- ... nsfer-ban/
Shumer had kept the bogus “background check” bill under wraps, only putting forth a shell bill with no specifics. Well, he applied the text through an amendment at the last minute, before it passed. John Richardson has the details, including the text.
UPDATE: Teaching someone to shoot on your own land is a felony, 5 years, if you hand them the gun. Not an exempted transfer.

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