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by VMI77
Tue Dec 18, 2012 9:50 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Well Here We Go
Replies: 105
Views: 15608

Re: Well Here We Go

Beiruty wrote:Supreme court will get involved, 2ndA will be upheld. restrictions are unreasonable. DUI is a more threat and no one is banning consumption of Alcohol. Worse, Pot is being legalized and more stoned drivers would be on the road.

We should fight for our 2ndA with our dollars and our vote.

Drunks can't resist official oppression, and neither can stoners....and the PTB don't care about us mundanes being killed except as it enhances their own power and control.
by VMI77
Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:25 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Well Here We Go
Replies: 105
Views: 15608

Re: Well Here We Go

PATHFINDER wrote:The utter futility of gun control laws, and discussions regarding mental illness offer little hope of ever preventing such tragedies. We are AT WAR with manifestations of EVIL - and we have no viable choice other than to DEFEND against the threat. As long a sheep mentality overrides our natural self defense instincts that reside within our DNA such tragedies will be repeated. After all we are not cattle - we are predatory by nature. We possess canine teeth in addition to our mandibles for a reason.

As long as people persist in engaging in helpless "grazing" behavior they will remain vunerable to predation. As long as we are satisfied having our children being protected by thin "feel-good" layers of security while intrusting our safety to LEO's positioned at the far end of a 911 call we exhibit the pathology of insanity.

Even more agregious is the consignment of our most helpless children to an UNPROTECTED environment 7 hours a day, 5 days a week .

Hopefully upcoming school board meetings across the nation will be filled with parents demanding tangible protection for our children.

We must not allow this tragedy to be a catalyst for further stupidity focused on banning guns, magazines, and establishing more GFZ's.

The enormity of this tragedy was PREVENTABLE with MULTIPLE LAYERS of security, THE ABILITY TO USE DEADLY FORCE as a last resort being one layer.

My wife and I plan to attend our grandchildren's Christmas music performance next Friday in Edgewood Village (Ft Worth). I would like to see policies in place in Texas by then requiring parents to provide a guest list to the office, that would be compared to I.D.'s at the door. I think every public school district should set the goal of having AT THE VERY LEAST one police officer assigned to every school effective Monday morning. In lieu of that authorize, and assign at least one armed CHL staff member to security detail. That would be a step in the RIGHT DIRECTION to seriously address the existing vunerability of our children while their safety is entrusted to the care of school officials.

I don't expect the superintendent of this particular CT school district to accept any responsibility for failing to DEFEND those 20 children - but that is where the RESPONSIBILITY ultimately resides. Unfortunately I expect the 2A and the NRA to reap the bulk of the blame in a stampede for further gun restrictions upon the law-abiding armed citizens who can actually prevent such tragedies.

I just heard former NYC Mayor Rudy Guliani opine that even an armed policeman AT THE DOOR might not have stopped this murderer. That is conceivably possible I suppose - assuming that was the ONLY layer of DEFENSE in place. TWO additional layers should be ARMED administrators, and TEACHERS.

You're talking about Connecticut....the teachers are mostly a bunch of lefties and they're not going to carry guns. The administrators are all lefties. Being defenseless is part of the collectivist program. They find victim-hood ennobling. There is no way they're going to support being armed. There is no way they're going to support ANY action by individuals that facilitates the notion that people can do things on their own without government.

A police office at the door might have stopped THIS murder but it wouldn't have stopped this MURDERER. If he thought the armed cop would disrupt his plans he would simply have found a softer target. You can't fix crazy. The pretend tears of the collectivists aside, they don't care about us mundanes being killed except as it furthers their agenda and increases their power. Defenselessness and helplessness is the fundamental requirement of collectivism.

Oh yeah, where are all the forum libs telling us The One isn't going to take any of our guns away?
by VMI77
Sat Dec 15, 2012 11:19 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: Well Here We Go
Replies: 105
Views: 15608

Re: Well Here We Go

Dave2 wrote:
MeMelYup wrote:This part is nice? :banghead:

Attorney General gets carte blanche to ban guns at will: Under the proposal, the U.S. Attorney General can add any “semiautomatic rifle or shotgun originally designed for military or law enforcement use, or a firearm based on the design of such a firearm, that is not particularly suitable for sporting purposes, as determined by the Attorney General.”
Well that's stupid. All guns are based on military designs to some degree or another.
That's the point...it allows them to ban all guns, incrementally.

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