Thank you for pointing this out! I'm learning a lot from this conversation and look forward to reading the posted article.CWOOD wrote:drjoker, just a small point of information.drjoker wrote:I just read the text of the law and it says that the immigration status of those ARRESTED will be checked. If you were stopped on a routine traffic stop, you will NOT be ARRESTED and therefore you will NOT be harassed as a minority as long as you are law-abiding and avoid arrest. Also, it did not say to check immigration status of SUSPECTED illegal immigrants but to check the immigration status of those ARRESTED. It suggests that EVERYONE must be checked. I don't know how the law will actually be promulgated, but the law itself is NOT racist nor facist. I support it wholeheartedly. If the legislator really did sleep on the floor of the house in order to file the bill first, then she has my COMMENDATIONS because that, my friends, is DEDICATION.
P.S. Please write your legislator in support of this bill. Thank you.
There CUSTODY ARRESTS and NON-CUSTODY ARRESTS.
A traffic ticket, is a instrument of a NON-CUSTODY ARREST. In essence it is an arrest with an immediate release on a personal bond. Your signature on the ticket is your bond, or promise to appear, in particular court by a specified time. If you do not sign the personal bond you will experience a CUSTODY ARREST.
In Texas, the ONLY circumstance where a LEO cannot execute a CUSTODY ARREST for a traffic violation is when the driver has a Texas DL, and the vehicle is registered in Texas and the only violation is speeding. That being said, it would not take much to escalate the charge to Reckless Driving, so I would not even bet on that.
I generally agree with your position on this matter but just wanted to clarify a point of the law.
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- Sat Nov 13, 2010 1:24 pm
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- Tue Nov 09, 2010 11:44 am
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Very important distinction. Thank you for pointing it out.G.A. Heath wrote:This bill differs from the AZ law in a number of key points. First off it will only call for an immigration check on folks who were arrested, where the AZ law called for a check on people the officer reasonably suspected might be an illegal immigrant. Secondly this bill would require a check on everyone who is arrested, not just those suspected of being here illegally.
- Tue Nov 09, 2010 10:58 am
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Unless the primary group of people being stopped in the first place was racially motivated like the NYC example Dave referenced or the accusation being made against the AZ implementation.PRO wrote:When stopped by an LEO, the LEO normally runs your ID through TCIC and NCIC. How hard would it be for the LEO to just run everyone’s ID through ICE? If everyone’s immigration status was being checked then no one would be discriminated against or profiled.
- Tue Nov 09, 2010 9:45 am
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I read at one place some time back that there were accusations of the Arizona bill being applied in a way which was specifically targeting Hispanics. That the police were systemically going into Hispanic neighborhoods in coordinated raids and stopping people on minor traffic issues for the sole reason of then being able to check their immigration papers. The counterargument was how successful they were in finding illegal immigrants in doing so.