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Had a few of them? What were there transgression in the Military?

Failure to report, theft, alcohol related incidents, use of controlled substances, A.W.O.L., writing bad checks (in multiple states), A.P.F.T. failure, malingering, spousal abuse, you name it. Patterns of misconduct, similar to the patterns of misconduct they displayed prior to entering service. Go figure.

Ive had little problem involuntary separating people from my units when conduct dictated so. It all comes down to the leaders willingness to put in the time and work. Many are lazy, a few ignorant, some stupid, a few all three, leaders in those category "bitch and whine" about not being able to deal with, separate Soldiers with qualifying misconduct. The rest of us have no problems in my experience.

Unless you have the rank and command entitling you to be a separating authority, YOU didn't separate anyone, the respective commander did. Some of "us" did NOT have commanders that supported their subordinate commands.

Any leader today that allows a Soldier in todays Army stay in having shown a pattern of misconduct (AR 635-200, chap 14-12b ) , or single serious incident(AR 635-200, chap 14-12c ) is a failure in my opinion.

Couldn't agree more.

In reply but starting to go OT.. What is a "moral waiver" you speak of? Approved by who? When?

Here's a decent article: http://www.nytimes.com/2007/02/14/us/14military.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Psych cases, patterns of criminal conduct, all waived at enlistment for convenience.

I've had a few of these losers, and had to fight tooth and nail to get rid of them, despite the fact that they should have never been in uniform in the first place.

2up1down wrote:

Keith B wrote:

WildBill wrote:

Judge Stefany Miley set the date for the jury trial for April 2, 2012, in Clark County District Court. Murry, a 21-year-old former U.S. Army police officer, is being held without bail in the Clark County Detention Center

So much for a speedy trial.

The trial should be speedy, just a long wait in jail for her to get to the speedy part.

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I just wish that My "Brothers and Sisters in the MP Corps" were in charge of her care.
She would be very well taken care of. "Of the Troops, For the Troops". The Sinners are left for God.

Wouldn't surprise me if she was one of the many "outstanding" individuals allowed to enter service with one or more "moral waivers" that some idiot approved a few years back.