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by Pawpaw
Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:18 pm
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Topic: The Declaration of Independence
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Re: The Declaration of Independence

G26ster wrote:
Pawpaw wrote: Patches only have meaning for the unit you're currently assigned to. Ribbons, medals, and badges are forever.
Almost. If you served in the Army, and served in combat, you may wear the unit patch you were in combat with forever (on your right shoulder) while in Army dress. Also, you may wear unit citations (over right pocket) of your unit only while in that unit, unless you served in that unit during the date(s) for which the citation was issued. If you did serve with that unit during the date(s) issued, then you may wear it/those unit citations forever while in Army dress.
Yes I know every branch has their exceptions, but they only matter to those who still wear the uniform.

When explaining to those who did not serve, my statement will be right far more often than it's wrong. I sincerely doubt many of them are interested in the "fascinating" details of each branch's dress code. :lol:
by Pawpaw
Fri Nov 04, 2016 9:12 am
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Topic: The Declaration of Independence
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Re: The Declaration of Independence

From Wikipedia

The silver badge is the Basic Parachutist Insignia, used for all branches.
The gold badge is the Navy and Marine Corps Parachutist Insignia.
Basic Parachutist Insignia
The right to wear the Basic Parachutist Insignia is based on the completion of prescribed training defined in MCO 3120.11.:[18]

When an enlisted member initially qualifies as a static line parachutist, an entry shall be made on NAVPERS 1070/613 (commonly referred to as a "Page 13" entry) of the service record indicating the date of qualification, type(s) of aircraft in which qualified, and unit at which the training was received. Enlisted members are authorized the parachutist (PJ) designator added to their rating.[18]

A qualified static-line parachute jumper who successfully completes the prescribed program of instruction while attending a formal, interservice training facility including a minimum of 10 military free-fall parachute jumps, at least 2 of which must have been conducted carrying full combat equipment (1 day/1 night), may qualify. Enlisted members are authorized the military free-fall parachutist (FPJ) designator added to their rating.[18]

When an officer initially qualifies as a static line parachutist, the additional qualification designator (AQD) of BT1 will be entered into the officer's record by their detailer (NAVPERS). Free-fall qualification will result in an AQD of BT2.[18]

For both Static Line and Military Free Fall Parachutist qualified personnel, a service record entry shall also indicate whether or not the member is HALO-qualified.[18]

The Basic Parachutist Badge is a prerequisite for the Special Warfare Badge since parachutist training is an integral part of the Navy’s Basic Underwater Demolition/SEAL (BUD/S) program. SEAL personnel generally do not wear the Basic badge once they earn their Special Warfare insignia, but will wear their Navy and Marine Corps Parachutist Badge in addition to the Special Warfare Badge, the latter nicknamed the "Budweiser" badge. Navy EOD technicians are generally also jump qualified with a number of them also being qualified in military free-fall (HALO/HAHO). Currently, due to a recent change, newly pinned Navy EOD technicians are required to attend the U.S. Army's Basic Airborne School upon graduation. As well, a small number of SWCC personnel earn Basic Parachutist badges in conjunction with their assignment to a Special Boat Team detachment that uses the Maritime Craft Air Delivery System (MCADS). This enables them to drop small watercraft and their crews from C-130 aircraft.[18]

Navy and Marine Corps Parachutist Insignia
The Navy and Marine Corps Parachutist Insignia (originally issued as Navy Parachute Rigger wings) is a gold-colored embroidered or metal insignia depicting an open parachute with outstretched wings. It is authorized for officers and enlisted personnel who were awarded the Basic Parachutist Insignia and, under competent orders, have completed a minimum of five additional static-line or P3 jumps, to include: (1) combat equipment day jump, two (2) combat equipment night jumps, and employ at least two (2) different types of military aircraft.[18]

The U.S Navy and Marine Corps Parachutist badge was originally known as the U.S. Navy Certified Parachute Rigger badge and designed by American Insignia Company in 1942 for graduates of the U.S. Navy Parachute Rigger School. During WWII, despite being against uniform regulations it became common for U.S. Marine Corps paratroopers who were issued the silver U.S. Army Basic Parachutist badge to wear the gold Navy Certified Parachute Rigger badge because they believed the gold "Rigger wings" looked better on their uniform.[19] This out of regulations wearing of the Parachute Rigger badge became so common that in July 1963, the Commander of United States Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance Bruce F. Meyers sent a request to the Chief of Naval Operations Admrial George W. Anderson Jr. via Marine Corps Commandant General David M. Shoup requesting to officially make the Navy Parachute Rigger badge the parachutist badge for the Navy and Marine Corps. The request was approved by Admiral Anderson on July 12, 1963 per BuPers Notice 1020.[20] Since 1963, being a graduate of the U.S. Navy Parachute Rigger School is no longer a requirement to earn the badge.
by Pawpaw
Fri Nov 04, 2016 8:34 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: The Declaration of Independence
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Re: The Declaration of Independence

The Annoyed Man wrote:Very interesting. Just an observation....... Sgt Taffe has a lot of fruit salad and bling on his chest for a new graduate of boot camp, including two airborne pins. Could those be from his prior service, and if you serve honorably in two branches, are you allowed to wear the patches, pins, and medals from prior service in the first branch when currently serving in the second branch? If not, then I'm thinking that this picture was taken quite some time after he graduated from boot camp.

(I think I might have just answered my own question when zooming in on the pin that has what might be the Navy's UDT emblem on it.)

Second question is, what is the significance of one jump pin being silver, and the other gold? Just curious......
Patches only have meaning for the unit you're currently assigned to. Ribbons, medals, and badges are forever.
by Pawpaw
Fri Nov 04, 2016 6:55 am
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Topic: The Declaration of Independence
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Re: The Declaration of Independence

KHickam wrote:Except many of us are too old and worn out now to do much of anything.
It has been said of the military that for every active combatant, there are 10 more working in support roles.

There is plenty us old goats can do besides sling lead.
by Pawpaw
Thu Nov 03, 2016 1:47 pm
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Topic: The Declaration of Independence
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Re: The Declaration of Independence

Hoodasnacks wrote:
Declaration of Independence wrote: with a firm reliance on the protection of Divine Providence, we mutually pledge to each other our Lives, our Fortunes, and our sacred Honor.
With firm reliance on the protection of divine providence...that is the only thing that will save us now. I do not see the constitution being saved--even if we get the right judges for one more term of a presidency. In order to rely on providence, we need to be worthy of it. That is where I am focusing my efforts. Let's not get too wrapped up in the daily garbage and remember that we may need to band together. If we can then rely on divine providence, we will be unstoppable.
The constitution will survive.

It may require the millions of American veterans, along with other like-minded individuals, rising up in armed revolt, but the constitution will survive. You see, we swore an oath...

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