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powerboatr wrote:

mojo84 wrote:Powerboatr, Are you saying it is common we enter into their waters or come close regularly and have been doing it for a while? Is it that we are testing or taunting them? I am very interested in learning more about this and what is actually going on. The idea of mechanical failure and both boats drifting near the island like that just seems a little fishy to me. Would be interested in what you can share.

yes
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the persian gulf layout is so small, it is very easy to cross into a countries "claimed" waters. Iran routinely paints ships with firecontrol radar for ships in the western side of the gulf. lets not forget the straits of Hormuz is skinnier than 3 miles...so yes, we and everyone one else crosses into irans "claimed" waters, and we sail through at maximum readiness for attack. the farsi island adds in another level of "claimed" territory becasue they routinely claim the area between the island and iran mainland as sovereign iran territory, which is outside normal sea lane protocols
its normal day at sea for that region.
what is horrible, these two boats were tracked by over watch, plus the carrier battlegroup and its cadre of ships, (crusiers, and the like)

not to mention the helicopter assets flying and on ready alert, and fixed wing assets on alert in the air.

to many questions the navy needs to answer.
if these two boats went dark unscheduled....and we add in the recent escalation of games played by the Iranians, WHY were assets not dispatched immediately to check the safety of the boats and crew.
unless doctrine has changed...there is at least two cruisers in the northern persian gulf right near kuwait and iraq. these ships are fast and could dispatched, and they have two helicopters on each one, not to mention fast RIB boats.
this whole mess stinks to high heaven.
i salute the calm these sailors showed in the videos, i bet they thought it was all over for them. So relieved to see them released and safe and sound

we as do other countries routinely help ships and boats at sea if the have troubles and then send them on their way, or secure them until their country arrives to help. i cant even remember how many times we did this in the Persian gulf for iranian boats and dows
its a very touchy area, rules of engagement are very tight, our boats could have sank they little iran boats in a second. good to see it didnt escalate

it would have or could have gone very bad very fast.
iranians like to point and shoot vice point and advise