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EEllis wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:
The bottom line is that just because you understand how things work, that doesn't mean everyone does.

I'm quite aware of that

So the girls in a panic made a mistake. I have no real issue with that but her mistake escalated the situation and all the blame goes on the cops? Yeah that makes sense.

Right there is the crux of the problem. What do you suppose put the girls into a panic?

Since I wasn't there, I don't know what caused their panic, but I can't think of anything other than the way the police approached them. Of course the police didn't know about the event the girls had just attended, but if handled differently, there might not have been an issue.

BTW, I'm not slamming the cops. Mistakes were obviously (to me) made on both sides of this event. I do think the police overreacted for such a minor possible infraction.

EEllis wrote:

talltex wrote:

EEllis wrote:First that isn't how she stated it and what car on this planet has to be running to roll down the windows?

Almost every one of them, unless it has manual windows. The ignition has to be in the "on" or "run" position for the power windows to operate on every vehicle I know of, unless it has been running and just shut off, in which case, many will allow you to operate accessory functions, such as stereo, PW, PSeat until such time as the door is opened. Before you ask, my expertise comes courtesy of 40+ years in the business.

What business? Because while I agree the key may need to be in run it doesn't have to be started and as a matter of fact doesn't start in run. Every car I've had you turn you key past run to start then it goes back to run. No need to start your car at all. No mind you I haven't any fancy foreign jobs just regular non luxury cars but still.

Not everyone understands exactly how these things work. Here's an example:

A couple of weeks ago, I was out in a store with my 17-year-old granddaughter. She wanted to go sit in the truck while I waited in line and paid for our purchases. I gave her the keys to my truck and told her to start the engine. As I'm sure you can understand, I did that so the A/C would cool off the truck and she wouldn't have to sit in the sweltering heat.

When I came out, the first thing I noticed was that my truck's diesel engine wasn't running. After putting the bags in the back, I got in the truck and asked her why she didn't start it, like I said. She told me she just turned the key on because all she wanted was the air conditioning. When I explained that the A/C wouldn't work unless the engine was running, she claimed it was working just fine (I guess because the blower was moving air). She even claimed her mother's (my daughter) car worked that way.

When we got home, I told my daughter the story and she started to get onto my granddaughter because, "running the A/C without starting the engine will run the battery down." I had to explain to both of them how it works.

The bottom line is that just because you understand how things work, that doesn't mean everyone does.