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AFCop wrote:I personally find your comment slightly offensive and speculative. It might make them yes, but to make it sound diffinitive is mean.

srothstein wrote:OK,we have a real answer that i thought would be obvious. If you are stopped by anyone who is not a peace officer as defined in Texas Code of Criminal Procedure section 2.12, whether you are carrying or not, or by a Texas peace officer when you are not armed, you are not legally required to produce your CHL. You are not even required to produce it when they specifically ask you about it because you are not required to have it in your possession.

But for an opposing point of view, what is the advice we give about being unarmed and letting the Texas peace officer know anyway? Why would you change that attitude? The MP, or the federal agent off base, is going to run you through the exact same database that the peace officer will, with the exact same results. If the peace officer is going to want to know more, why would the other LEO not act the same way? I would recommend letting the MP know you have a CHL but are not armed. The rules for detaining you, cuffing you, and searching your car are only very slightly modified when you are on base if you are not in the military and subject to the UCMJ. The 4th Amendment still applies. There is the question of the implied consent sign when you come on base and it is my understanding that the court rulings on this are sort of mixed. I have not kept up with them since 2001 so I could be wrong on this, but that was my understanding the last time I worked near a base.

My recommendation would be to treat the MP, FBI agent, US Marshal, or Border Patrol Agent as exactly the same as you would a peace officer.

But do not forget that you are not allowed to haev the gun on base in most cases, even in the trunk. That part is still way different from the rest of Texas.

bronco78 wrote:

Pawpaw wrote:

bronco78 wrote:

RottenApple wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:How did you legally get onto the base with your CHL? I thought most military bases are off-limits to CHL.

I'm pretty sure you can have a CHL and be on a military base. You just can't actually carry.

No sir, ,not correct, Fast way to see cuffs on you and a long day ahead

May I point out that you are incorrect? A CHL is a Concealed Handgun License. There is no law or regulation about having a license on base, so long as you don't also have a firearm.

That was the point.

And my point was, , is. Still;
displaying a CHL (Concealed Hand Gun license) at a traffic stop on Fort Hood will be cause in most cases for delay, search, and depending on attitude and what else they find or don’t find, hand cuffs.

bronco78 wrote:

RottenApple wrote:

The Annoyed Man wrote:How did you legally get onto the base with your CHL? I thought most military bases are off-limits to CHL.

I'm pretty sure you can have a CHL and be on a military base. You just can't actually carry.

No sir, ,not correct, Fast way to see cuffs on you and a long day ahead