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Pawpaw wrote: will argue that it's not right. Why is "domestic abuse" the only misdemeanor that will cost you your 2nd amendment rights? If it's that serious a crime, it should be a felony.

It should be a felony if it's proven with evidence.

Pawpaw wrote:Do you have any idea how easy it is to be convicted of domestic abuse? All that is necessary is for the female to call it into 911. The police will show up and tell you that they are required by law to take someone to jail and you're elected. Then you will have the opportunity to post bail. Remember, the person who put you there now has control of all of your money so good luck. After several months drag by, you will finally get your day in court. She says you did & you say you didn't. There are no bruises or other evidence, but that doesn't matter. The judge will still pronounce you guilty. Congratulations. You have now lost the right to own a gun and you didn't do anything.

I have seen it, personally, with a close family member. I was sitting in the courtroom when "judgement" was passed on a purely "he said - she said". The guy loses.

So what do we do with real abusers? Let them off? Your point is well taken, however, here's another side of the story.

My family and I were living in an apartment a number of years back. Around the corner from us was a woman with two children. Her husband was so abusive that she left him. After the fourth court restraining order requiring him to stay away, he walked into her house and shot her dead in front of her (and his) children. The court had taped recordings of him threatening to kill her on multiple occasions. Apparently it's not possible to arrest someone for making threats, even after it's been proven that they beat their spouse.

The law doesn't take real domestic abuse seriously enough. According to your story, they also tend to convict on domestic abuse with no corroborating evidence. That is a dichotomy that is unexplainable.

Nor do I. In fact I would enthusiastically assist in disarming abusers. To me there are few lower life forms than men who hit women. I have two daughters. If one of them were abused, you can rest assured that he would be standing nose to nose with me, and when we were done he would never abuse again, because he would know he would not survive it. I dealt with an abusive husband at one point in my life. He stopped abusing his wife after I visited him. I'm not boasting. I'm just saying that strong men can make a difference. Those who abuse belong in jail, not holding restraining orders that do nothing.

I have an idea. Instead of putting an inanimate object in jail, how about putting criminals in jail???