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by baldeagle
Fri Apr 12, 2013 6:32 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: DHS-Bound Official Warned Against ‘Christians'
Replies: 13
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Re: DHS-Bound Official Warned Against ‘Christians'

JP171 wrote:not really as the source is known to be an inaccurate right wing rag, also here is a man outside of his bailiwick and writing opinion


David L. Goetsch is one of the most widely-published college professors and corporate trainers in the United States. His books all fall into three broad categories: professional development, organizational development, and economic development. Specifically his books deal with such topics as quality, global competitiveness, management, leadership, supervision, and occupational safety. Dr. Goetsch is vice-president of Northwest Florida State College where he is also a full professor. He is also President and CEO of David L. Goetsch & Associates (a corporate training and consulting firm).

but none the less, Quakers (as they don't consider Jesus as the messiah but just a prophet) were not considered as Christian nor were and are Catholics by the other religion sects.

and before you go on, I am not a leftist ignorant fool. I don't think that anyone would agree with my thoughts on government and the cult of madness that is prevalent in DC. I was also a catholic for most of my young life
What other people consider as Christian is irrelevant. If they believed in Jesus Christ and followed the Bible, they were Christians. You can call them theists, as some prefer to call men like Thomas Jefferson, but just because you don't believe Jesus Christ was God doesn't make you not a Christian, except in the small minds of judgmental people. I'm a Christian, and defy anyone to prove otherwise, but I guarantee you there are plenty of religious people who would tell you that I'm going to hell because of what I believe.

I could care less. Neither could Thomas Jefferson.
by baldeagle
Thu Apr 11, 2013 12:40 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: DHS-Bound Official Warned Against ‘Christians'
Replies: 13
Views: 1265

DHS-Bound Official Warned Against ‘Christians'

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Trooper Joe Kluczynski taught a 2-hour section on sovereign citizens. Kluczynski spent most of his two hours focusing on how, in his view and apparently the view of Homeland Security, people turn to the sovereign citizen movement. Kluczynski started off by saying there are probably some sovereign citizens in this room and gave a generalized list of those groups that have sovereign citizen views. Among those groups, Kluczynski had listed, were those who believe America was founded on godly principles, Christians who take the Bible literally, and “fundamentalists”. Kluczynski did not explain what he meant by “fundamentalists” but from the context it was clear he was referring again to those who took the Bible literally or “too seriously.”
The Trooper also asked if the participants were prepared to "go after illegal weapons".

This is the plan, folks. Label Christians and patriots as extremists, pass bills making their weapons illegal and then go after them in force. We are on the brink of all out civil war. God help us all.

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