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anygunanywhere wrote:I too am weary of relying on the ballot box. It ain't working.

Anygunanywhere

Purplehood wrote:So a legislator wants to make it a felony to propose legislation that he may oppose? That sounds like the opposite of Democracy to me.

PUCKER wrote:Baldeagle - VERY well written response!

--On February 18, 2013 10:31:58 AM -0500 Sam Pollak <spollak@thedailystar.com> wrote:

> Mr. Baldeagle:
>
> The Missouri bill hysteria is a straw man, meant to scare people who have no reason to be scared that someone will confiscate their guns. Neither bill you mention has
> any chance at all of passage. Missouri has Republican majorities in the House and Senate.
>
> I think most gun owners can see through the NRA propaganda and hysteria. It's sad that you and some others cannot.
>
> Best wishes,
>
> Sam Pollak
> Editor
> The Daily Star
> P.O. Box 250
> Oneonta, NY 13820
> (607) 441-7208

I find it insulting that you think my ideas come from the NRA, and I am incapable of thinking for myself. I'm a veteran. I took an oath to the Constitution, and unlike far too many of our politicians, I will honor that oath until my last breath.

You really are blind. The very fact that an American politician would propose such a law, regardless of its chance of passage, should be alarming to you.

Since I'm sure you treasure the First Amendment, perhaps you'd like to tell me what you would think if a politician proposed a law requiring that all editorial columns must be approved by a committee established by the state before they can be published? Would you then be crying straw man? Or would you be alarmed enough to write about the threat to your liberty?

If columnists all across the country were promoting the idea of suppressing free speech, and the President and prominent members of Congress were floating ideas about limiting free speech, would you be alarmed then? If the speech they were proposing to suppress was by people you despised, like conservatives, would you sit silently by while the rhetoric flies and the bills are proposed and scoff that there's nothing to worry about?

If you don't stand up for the entire bill of rights you stand for none of it. If you allow one part of it to be abrogated, you've lost the whole.

No one is coming to take your guns? Then how do you explain the legislation proposed in both MO and MN that would do just that?

Missouri

<http://www.house.mo.gov/billtracking/bi ... B0545I.HTM>

4. Any person who, prior to the effective date of this law, was legally in possession of an assault weapon or large capacity magazine shall have ninety days from such effective date to do any of the following without being subject to prosecution:

(1) Remove the assault weapon or large capacity magazine from the state of Missouri;
(2) Render the assault weapon permanently inoperable; or
(3) Surrender the assault weapon or large capacity magazine to the appropriate law enforcement agency for destruction, subject to specific agency regulations.

5. Unlawful manufacture, import, possession, purchase, sale, or transfer of an assault weapon or a large capacity magazine is a class C felony.

Minnesota

<https://www.revisor.mn.gov/bin/bldbill. ... ssion=ls88>

Sec. 7. PERSONS POSSESSING ASSAULT WEAPONS ON EFFECTIVE DATE
10.21OF ACT; REQUIRED ACTIONS.
10.22Any person who, on February 1, 2013, legally owns or is in possession of an assault
10.23weapon has until September 1, 2013, to do any of the following without being subject to
10.24prosecution under Minnesota Statutes, section 624.7133:
10.25(1) remove the weapon from the state;
10.26(2) surrender the weapon to a law enforcement agency for destruction;
10.27(3) render the weapon permanently inoperable; or
10.28(4) if eligible, register the weapon as provided in Minnesota Statutes, section
10.29624.7133, subdivision 5.

Then there's the ironically named law already passed in New York which requires that you either register your "assault" weapon or get rid of it.

And now we have a leaked DOJ memo recommending universal background checks (IOW, you can't even gift a weapon to your son without a background check), registration of ALL weapons and "mandatory buybacks" (liberal code for confiscation).

It would appear to a reasonable person that you are ignorant and attempting to spread that ignorance through your column.

Gun owners aren't ignorant. We can see what's going on. The fact that you can't simply confirms the blindness that affects all liberals.

Shame on you for publicly ridiculing your conservative "friends". If they read your article, you may find you have lost them.