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Charles L. Cotton wrote:

TPC §9.32 wrote:Sec. 9.32. DEADLY FORCE IN DEFENSE OF PERSON. (a) A person is justified in using deadly force against another:

(1) if the actor would be justified in using force against the other under Section 9.31; and

(2) when and to the degree the actor reasonably believes the deadly force is immediately necessary:

(A) to protect the actor against the other's use or attempted use of unlawful deadly force; or

(B) to prevent the other's imminent commission of aggravated kidnapping, murder, sexual assault, aggravated sexual assault, robbery, or aggravated robbery.

When the threat is stopped, you have acted within the scope of TPC §3.32. Do more at your own risk.

Chas.

I understand that, Charles, but I would LOVE to see a DA try to prosecute a CHL holding teacher or parent for excessive force when shooting an active shooter murdering kids. THAT would be a get-the-popcorn event for sure. As we say in Texas, some folks just need killin'.

Liberty wrote:I don't buy into emptying the mag as a technique. Every self defense instructor I have met has always taught to shoot until the threat has stopped. In these schoolhouse scenerios shooting to slidelock unnecessarily would leave the good vulnerable to a second unknown assailant.

Reload. The point is you don't want to take any chances with a homicidal maniac. You don't want to stop the threat. You want to completely and permanently neutralize it.

TDDude wrote:Getting these teachers the plastic in their hands is great, but what about getting them trained?

I sincerely hope that these Houston area school district police departments are planning ahead for all these packing teachers. It seems likely that the Texas legislature is going to change the landscape of what a "Gun Free Zone" is and some sort of plan needs to be in place.

Similar to fire drills, teachers need to already have a plan in place for when those loud booms start happening.

To my way of thinking, teachers would have one job to do in an active shooter situation. Secure their kids and prepare to engage should the shooter come their way. They would not be in the hallways actively engaging the shooter. They would be in their rooms, with their kids, prepared to use deadly force if necessary. This should include planning that would place the teacher in a position to surprise the shooter and not endanger her kids in the potential shootout.

Administrators and staff would be similar. Secure your area and prepare to engage if, and only if, confronted. If the shooter walks through your door or breaks it down, you should already be cocked and locked and aiming at the door. As soon as you have the target in your sites, fire and don't stop firing until you empty the magazine.

If you see the shooter pass your door, as soon as he has his back to you, step into the doorway, using it for cover, and open fire. Do not stop until you have no bullets left.

This plan essentially places traps for the shooter everywhere he goes, so he cannot ever know, when he enters a room, whether he will be shot or not. And I would publicize these plans. Let the potential shooters know, when you enter our school and walk down our hallways looking for kids to shoot, you could be shot at any time. Every door and every hallway presents a gauntlet for you to pass.

Isn't Charles in Houston? Surely he knows folks who can help.