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mr surveyor wrote:do you think msnbc would have rather had Ted Nugent speak for the 2A crowd?

They most likely found a stoolie to "play the part".... it IS msnbc

More importantly, why are you watching MSNBC to begin with?

I think the classical way of defining political systems is completely wrong. Both communism and facism are totalitarian systems. So I think it is incorrect to call fascism a "right side" system and communism a "left side" system. I believe a better way of defining political systems is from anarchy on the right to totalitarianism on the left. Somewhere in the middle is where I would put democracy and to the right of that a republic (which is what America is supposed to be.)

b322da wrote:

texanron wrote:I just heard the gunman bought the Glock 9mm legally from a sporting goods store in AZ on November 30th of last year.

"Legally?" This could possibly result, even in Arizona, in questions about limiting sales to certain categories of persons. Recognizing there was apparently no medical diagnosis in this case, that will most likely not inhibit moves, or publicity, in that direction.

Slippery slope?

Elmo

I certainly don't see anything wrong with denying access to firearms to people with mental health issues so long as the terms of denial are carefully designed to not entrap people who were falsely accused. We don't know if Loughner ever received any medical treatment for mental illness much less a diagnosis of some pathology, so at this point it is moot in his case.

I think you will see some moves in Congress to either add mental health screening to the NICS checks or strengthen what presently exists (if anything), and I don't see anything wrong with that. Loughner was clearly troubled but was able to buy a weapon (and for the press - it's a SEMIautomatic) and a high capacity magazine just a month and a half before he used it to slaughter 6 people and forever change the lives of many others. If there is a way to put a stop to such purchases without trampling the rights of law-abiding citizens, then I think it should be done. I suspect the Gabrielle Giffords Protection Act will be introduced in the near future.

lrb111 wrote:Laughner was Boy Blue on the Daily Kos. They have "diary" pages. The Hillbuzz site captured the material posted at the Daily Kos as it was being deleted. They want to whitewash their site right now.
Here's the Hillbuzz stuff, note the site may be swamped. http://hillbuzz.org/2011/01/08/my-congr ... pt-on-her/" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;

Kos was one of the first to blame the Tea Party for the attack. Looks like he's eating some major crow now. And flushing all the evidence down the memory hole just like a good leftist does. Can't have the truth interfering with the story line.

I heard one AZ State Senator state, on Fox, that he was an Afghan vet and that the Tea Party was very aggressive against Congresswoman Giffords. On Democratic Underground and Huffington Post, the implication has been that this guy was a Tea Party "radical".

If you read the Twitter feed (posted by RPB), she was taking classes with him in 2007. He's 22. He would have been 19 then, so I seriously doubt he ever served in the military, much less a tour in Afghanistan. And he certainly wasn't a tea partier. If anything, he'd be more aligned with the communist organizations that are constantly stirring up trouble in this country.

Apparently he was a left wing nutcase.

The reports of the Congresswoman's demise are premature.