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- Thu May 27, 2010 12:39 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: OR - CCW holder opens fire on suspects, police arrest him
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Re: OR - CCW holder opens fire on suspects, police arrest hi
And here he is, Mr. Witter, in full denial on video tape trying to justify his actions. Btw, judge revoked his CHL....
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- Wed May 26, 2010 3:39 pm
- Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
- Topic: OR - CCW holder opens fire on suspects, police arrest him
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Re: OR - CCW holder opens fire on suspects, police arrest hi
Hello from Orygun.....here is an excerpt from the gun laws here....
161.219
...a person is not justified in using deadly physical force upon another person unless the person reasonably believes that the other person is:
(1) Committing or attempting to commit a felony involving the use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a person; or
(2) Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling; or
(3) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force against a person.
Source(s):
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Even tho Mr. Witter reasonably believed (saw) that persons were committing a burglary, he had no justification for attempting to stop or detain the suspects by firing at them. The "trying to shoot the tires out" is laughable only in that no one got hurt. Your absolute best target shooting at a range is at best only 50% in a real life, adrenaline rushed situation. Although Oregon, unlike Texas, is not a Castle Doctrine state, past judicial cases substatiate that it is a "no retreat" state. You can shoot a burgler in your house or at another premise but you cannot shoot a burgler who is in retreat.
Mr. Witter did not learn what he was taught in his required Oregon gun law & safety class in obtaining his CHL. AND will make the rest of us nationwide look bad.
161.219
...a person is not justified in using deadly physical force upon another person unless the person reasonably believes that the other person is:
(1) Committing or attempting to commit a felony involving the use or threatened imminent use of physical force against a person; or
(2) Committing or attempting to commit a burglary in a dwelling; or
(3) Using or about to use unlawful deadly physical force against a person.
Source(s):
http://www.leg.state.or.us/ors/161.html" onclick="window.open(this.href);return false;
Even tho Mr. Witter reasonably believed (saw) that persons were committing a burglary, he had no justification for attempting to stop or detain the suspects by firing at them. The "trying to shoot the tires out" is laughable only in that no one got hurt. Your absolute best target shooting at a range is at best only 50% in a real life, adrenaline rushed situation. Although Oregon, unlike Texas, is not a Castle Doctrine state, past judicial cases substatiate that it is a "no retreat" state. You can shoot a burgler in your house or at another premise but you cannot shoot a burgler who is in retreat.
Mr. Witter did not learn what he was taught in his required Oregon gun law & safety class in obtaining his CHL. AND will make the rest of us nationwide look bad.