No Sir, although the thread is about Church Security, my reply is about a group of like minded people not being able to provide for their own protection, without having to be super creative on how to articulate this to others. To me this is "Read Lie". Maybe some yahoo can bamboozle others and take them off a cliff. But to me Freedom isn't free, one must allow someone to make mistakes and allow folks to be bamboozled in order to maintain freedom. My reply was also about this Nanny State idea, that I believe we are being bamboozled with, into acceptance of a further degradation of our rights in all areas.EEllis wrote:Lets be honest here about the security officer issue. The major reason people have issues is because of the church connection. If any other org did this then people would be glad the law is how it is. Lets also admit part of the reason the laws are so restrictive is because of how badly they have been broken over the years, While some churches may do a great job running a security squad the next may have some yahoo who bamboozles folks into thinking he has a clue and takes everybody off the cliff with them. These laws are not directed at churches and the DPS is not looking to crack down on anyone because the are having "security meetings" before service. The regs just don't give much leeway for churches not that it targets them.DEB wrote:As I read this, I get to thinking; Isn't this something, a group of like minded people cannot even provide for their own protection, without falling afoul of some Law or another or having to be creative in an explanation. So does one choose death or a lawsuit? Sorry, but to see how far we have fallen, really brings me down. I am 52 and when I talk to my son and soon his children, my memories of my childhood seem to be only fantasies of freedom. I do know we have accomplished a lot, finally concealed carry in Texas and an excellent Castle Law for instance. But we cannot openly carry a rifle in the gun rack anymore, we especially cannot openly carry a rifle down the street, even though these acts aren't illegal. Aw well take the good with the bad I suppose.
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- Wed May 08, 2013 9:49 am
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As I read this, I get to thinking; Isn't this something, a group of like minded people cannot even provide for their own protection, without falling afoul of some Law or another or having to be creative in an explanation. So does one choose death or a lawsuit? Sorry, but to see how far we have fallen, really brings me down. I am 52 and when I talk to my son and soon his children, my memories of my childhood seem to be only fantasies of freedom. I do know we have accomplished a lot, finally concealed carry in Texas and an excellent Castle Law for instance. But we cannot openly carry a rifle in the gun rack anymore, we especially cannot openly carry a rifle down the street, even though these acts aren't illegal. Aw well take the good with the bad I suppose.