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by DEB
Mon Nov 12, 2012 6:28 pm
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 50 States Secede
Replies: 197
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Re: 15 States Secede

The Annoyed Man wrote:My son sent me a text earlier today asking me to sign this thing. I haven't done it yet, and I'm not going to. IF things ever come to that I'll do my part, but I don't want my name on a list handed to Obupkis. I'm going to have to talk to my son about discretion.

And honestly, although I am very skeptical about the future national integrity in the long term, I love my country, and I don't want to see it disbanded. What I want to see is for the democrat party—the greatest evil this country has seen in 80 years—to be disbanded.

I do have an opinion about what I think is likely to happen to the U.S. over the next 50-75 years or so, maybe longer, maybe less, but it's not something I like. I think that the gulf between conservatives/libertarians on one side, and liberals/communists on the other side has become unbridgeable. I think this is for easily understood reasons, and they need no justification as far as I am concerned. The commies want to keep dragging the country further left. I don't want to go one single millimeter further leftward than I have already be dragged in the last 40 years. I'm not compromising anymore. When the other side consistently, over 40 years, refused to compromise, then compromise is not possible any longer. I've been pushed as far as I'm willing to be pushed. Either the pendulum begins to swing the other way of its own accord, or people like me are going to give it a push. As I've posted elsewhere, apparently this makes me an extremist to some people. I never saw myself that way before. I see myself as being principled, and willing to defend my principles and refusing to compromise with evil. But if that makes me an extremist, then I'll wear that label without apology.

What I see happening in the long term future is the United States "balkanizing" into smaller autonomous regions of like-minded and culturally similar peoples. By "culturally," I am NOT talking about race or ethnicity. Rather, I'm talking about cultural values, like self-reliance versus a collective mentality.....stuff like that. I also think that, eventually, there will be significant population shifts between those autonomous regions, as people begin to sort out what kind of regional culture they want to live in. Perhaps those autonomous regions will become loosely allied for purposes of mutual defense and commerce—EXACTLY WHAT THE FOUNDERS ENVISIONED—but they will likely never give big centralized government a chance for to form again.

Again, the reason I think this is exactly because the philosophical and cultural divide between left and right has become too large to mend....so something else has to happen.

I know that this vision is, in part, a sort of Jeffersonian fantasy, but it is more than that. The alternative is an increasingly large and oppressive centralized government. There will be no middle ground. Things are going to keep going in the direction they're headed—toward the large and oppressive—or they can reverse themselves and head toward what I described above. Stasis is not possible because the status quo is not stable. The commies aren't through yet, and they're fired up, and people like me are sooooo done with that crap.......so stasis is not stable, and it must tip one way or the other.

That's just how I see it. I hope I'm wrong, but I don't think I am.
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