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cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 2:17 pm
I have not heard that Faucci wants to implant chips in Americans. That seems to be conspiracy theories. As far as a vaccine, it won't be the govt. that mandates it... it will be your insurance company. You either get the vaccine, or they don't pay if you get sick.

Fauci supports Gates
https://www.dailywire.com/news/ag-barr- ... pery-slope

cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 9:19 am

chasfm11 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:49 am

cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:43 am
Why are we seeing the spike now? Some say Memorial Day gatherings, some say protests, some say bars. I have a feeling that all of these may have contributed. My neighbor and his whole family was very active in local area protests, and he told me yesterday that they are having some symptoms. A guy that my son works with is being tested because his grandmother tested positive. Another friend of mine posted on FB that she and her daughter have tested positive... Two weeks ago, I didn't know anybody who had tested positive for this.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... po=34.1146

Would you care to share what you think supports your view that we should not be wearing masks from that report? No one has claimed a mask is a 100% solution to stopping the virus. It is just another tool in the tool box to be used with distancing, hand washing, etc. It is like a home security system, built of layers. You may have signs warning against trespassing, beware of dog, or house protected by alarm, cameras and outdoor lighting as deterrents. Then you have fencing, locks, alarm system, and maybe a large dog as physical barriers. All of these things work together to keep your home safe, just as social distancing, hand washing, and wearing a face covering reduce the transmission of Covid-19 and other diseases.

https://www.nydailynews.com/coronavirus ... story.html

Most of the protesters violated the social distancing guidelines, only some wore masks and the yelling amplified the droplet transmission. I did not say that i was against all mask wearing. The point of the original article that I posted was to show what is really happening. In the case of a cough or a sneeze, the mask can help reduce (not eliminate) the virus laden moisture in the air. For me, if masks are as effective as we are being told, there is no reason not to open up businesses more. If the distancing requirement is the only thing that really works, the masks, particularly for outdoor activities are not logical It cannot work both ways. I understand layers of security. But those are passive in implementation and don't generate problems with each layer.

To be honest, my gravest concern with masks is not the mask itself but the next set of executive orders. Multiple "experts" including Dr. Fauci have already hinted at those - mandatory vaccinations, mandatory carrying of vaccination certificates and mandatory chip implants to certify vaccination. With as rapidly as we got from multiple experts - Fauci, Surgeon General, etc. saying masks are ineffective to mandatory financially punished mask wearing, I'm concerned that we could go those extra steps before everyone realizes what has happened.

cyphertext wrote: ↑Sat Jul 04, 2020 8:43 am
Why are we seeing the spike now? Some say Memorial Day gatherings, some say protests, some say bars. I have a feeling that all of these may have contributed. My neighbor and his whole family was very active in local area protests, and he told me yesterday that they are having some symptoms. A guy that my son works with is being tested because his grandmother tested positive. Another friend of mine posted on FB that she and her daughter have tested positive... Two weeks ago, I didn't know anybody who had tested positive for this.

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articl ... po=34.1146

We were told that the purpose of the restrictions was to flatten the curve, to avoid overwhelming the hospitals. OK, we did that. Now, I'm not sure what the goal is. No new cases? I'm not sure what the goal of the restrictions could be. I'm not aware of a single place where the hospitals are close to being overwhelmed.

The possible "next steps" are not conspiracy theory. Dr. Fauci and others have already talked about them. So here is the question: which of them is a bridge too far? The precedent for meeting them is already in place. You cannot go to stores or be in public places without a mask.

1. Getting a vaccine?
2. Carrying a certification for the vaccine?
3. Getting an implanted chip to prove that you have been given the vaccine?