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by chasfm11
Fri Jun 15, 2018 7:44 am
Forum: Gun and/or Self-Defense Related Political Issues
Topic: 2nd Amendment Question
Replies: 15
Views: 5288

Re: 2nd Amendment Question

RicoTX wrote: Thu Jun 14, 2018 8:01 pm Thanks for the comments! Always interesting to see different views.

I'm assuming that the majority of gun owners have accepted (not happily I know)the current restrictions on 2A as lawful.

I am curious, what's the line?
If u don't want to answer. I understand.

Mine would be gun registration.
Not going to happen. I'll leave it there.
Does even thinking about a plan in case this happens make me paranoid, a criminal, or a patriot?

Is just bringing it up a violation of forum rules?

Yes I know anti 2A people read the forum.
I have no problem with anyone knowing my feelings... everyone in my real life already knows all too well!
I'm not sure what my line would be. It is obvious what residents in CT and NY think of the "assault rife" bans in their respective States but I'm pretty sure that I would do the same thing that many of them are.

Regarding medical facilities, I agree with most of TAM's comments. I can also see the point of some of the 30.06 signs on medical facilities. For example, a GI doctor has offices in Southlake that are not posted. His procedure building close by has 30.06 and .07 signs. Since all of the patients there have to disrobe, someone carrying would have to deal with a firearm, either giving it to a family member (who may not be able to legally have it) or requiring the doctor's staff to deal with the firearm during the procedure. I can also see that it is not easy to predict when a similar situation might occur under other medical circumstances. The law does not provide the option for restricting patient carry (in order not to have the medical staff end up with the firearm) and allowing relatives and visitors to remain armed during visits. I do understand that emergency medical personnel end up dealing with firearms and that it isn't an insurmountable problem.

USACE gives us all an opportunity to be criminals. I drive across the Grapevine Dam (Corps controlled property) a lot and every time I do, I'm technically in violation of Federal law. Someone with a carry permit from another State where there are no classes can easily go to a Post Office parking lot and commit a crime without knowing it. But the key words are "without knowing it." I should have a reasonable chance to obey the law and that means that I should understand the places where that law applies. Absent that level of communication, compliance is a hit or miss result. As several Corps employees have told me, the laws are only there for those times when someone does something really bad. In other words, I'm free to break the law as long as I otherwise behave myself.

While not everyone agrees with her works, I'm an Ayn Rand fan. Dr. Ferris' dialogue in Atlas Shrugged is one of my favorites.
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”

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