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by chasfm11
Sun Oct 15, 2017 9:39 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Is the right to bear arms outdated?
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Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

Perhaps I'm wrong but the standoff in CT is one of the indicators that the politicians are not winning this battle. If you believe the stories of 100K+ people in CT with banned firearms who didn't comply and acknowledge that the CT authorities, after much bluster on the part of some police officers about kicking down doors, have suspended enforcement attempts, you have to conclude that bans have not accomplished their purpose. I did read a story where a citizen in NY was prosecuted for a SAFE act violation but even there, action against those with now illegal firearms appears to be lacking

I agree that enforcement on job situations could result against citizens who defy firearms laws but expect that there would be actions to identify those who have those firearms first. In CT, I suspect that many have their "illegal guns" in alternate locations from their homes so finding those guns would take some extraordinary effort. Given the ease and speed of social media, any concerted effort to find those guns would become news without Main Stream Media participation. I don't think that the situation would be different in any other State. While some might comply as some did in CT, many will not. If I remember correctly, the Australian "buy back" was deemed to be lacking in success by a third.

We all saw the news (and felt the effects in empty store shelves) of the buying sprees on guns and ammo under the 44th President. I cannot imagine too many of those who felt compelled to buy guns under those circumstances willingly turning and around and complying with new gun bans. I see it as unfortunate that those who voted with their pocketbooks were unwilling to do the same at the ballot box.
by chasfm11
Wed Oct 11, 2017 8:03 am
Forum: Off-Topic
Topic: Is the right to bear arms outdated?
Replies: 60
Views: 14334

Re: Is the right to bear arms outdated?

CZp10 wrote:Yikes, so far 24% say they literally want the second amendment removed from the constitution. I can understand people wanting to review the restrictions put on it or not put on it, but removing it completely? There are two things America is known for that almost no other country in the world has, the second amendment and capitalism. If you don't like those two things, which many on the left don't, there are many, many countries that they can move to. There is nowhere else for people who like those two things to go.
I've had many "conversations" with local people in my North Texas community. Many of those conversations started when two of us got on social media and suggested that our school district implement the same teaches-with-guns program as the Argyle School District did. Not only was the result a major teacher bashing session but the keyboard bullies made it clear that they would take every gun if they had their way. There is no compromise or half-way thinking among that group. From subsequent conversations, it was also clear that most of those same people don't like anything that America stands for, including capitalism. And they are not about to move any more than that Hollywood celebrities have after their threats. I don't know if our local number is near 24% but it is more than 10%, based on the social media activities. Call them Communists, Socialists or whatever, they are firm believers that government has the answer to all problems and the rest of us should be subjugated to government rule. The idea that government represents us is a foreign concept, just like rational conversation.

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