I guess that it comes down to two considerations: do I want to follow the law and how much risk am I willing to take. One can easily argue that the sign not being on the front door means that it is invalid. I did not have the opportunity to disarm before entering because I didn't know that I needed to. But the common sense side of things suggests that almost all medical buildings are posted and it is just a matter of where they hide the sign. If the sign exists, whether it was truly in a conspicuous location or not, my risk goes up if I am so how detected (yes, I know that concealed is concealed) because I believe that of all of the places that would prosecute me for failure to comply with the sign, a medical group is the most likely I was in a kidney specialist office last week that had a fairly well hidden 30.07 sign but no 30.06. I have no doubt that they would have call LEO if they figured out that I was CC based on the gun buster sign on the front door and that they did post the 30.07 sign. I've talked with our chief of police and he says that his officers will follow the law, not what someone else things the law is (our discussion was about 30.06 signs made invalid after OC.)Jusme wrote:NNT wrote:I wonder how many places post to appease the gun fearing people, or insurance companies, or, or... but really don't care if you carry? My work is posted with only a gun buster sign, but on all the doors. I can't carry because it is in the handbook and annual training on vehicles. The signs give me the message "we prefer you don't carry, but we are not going to make a big issue if you do." At least for visitors.chasfm11 wrote:
Some places seem to believe that "close enough is good enough" regarding their requirements to prevent carrying.
That may be part of it, but because of the hew and cry from business associations etc, regarding how "ugly" huge, compliant signs would be, I think they just don't want them out in front of their stylish entries. There is also the ignorance factor, for those who really don't understand who they are prohibiting, and believe that there is some sort of enhancement penalty, for any criminals who commit crimes with guns.
Whenever I enter an unfamiliar business, if it's not listed, on 30.06.com, I check the entry, and if I don't see any signs, I don't search the rest of the establishment for signs. JMHO
Even the movie theaters who post the signs in the correct places often bend the rules. The AMC in Highland Village has the 30.06 on the front door but in order to meet the 1" letter requirement and still keep the sign in a small space, they slammed the letters so close together that it makes my eyes cross trying to read it. Does it meet the the letter of compliance (sorry, couldn't resist)? Yes but since the intent was to be able to read the sign from a distance and you cannot even read it up close, it fails to accomplish the stated purpose. If you stand back about 10 feet from the sign, it appears as though it is written in one of the picture languages.