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by chasfm11
Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:51 am
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Moral vs Ethical carry on 30.06
Replies: 47
Views: 6373

Re: Moral vs Ethical carry on 30.06

chrisdxn wrote:My full-time job is in a business that has the 30.06 sign on the front doors. I cannot disagree more with the sign
and I have voiced that disagreement to the corporate office. They have one way to view it and I have another.
Most of us are pro-firearms and we live by the concept....You don't tell me and I wont ask! I have watched
people walk up to the front door....look up at the sign....and return to their car and drive off. The company is a
great company but it does have this issue completely wrong. I had several people say something to me and I
can only tell them I do understand and they are truly preaching to the choir.
Some companies are schizophrenic on this issue. I'm working a problem with Haverty's Furniture right now. None of their show rooms are posted (at least as far as I've seen) but they have a huge, in-your-face 30.06 sign at their pickup point. I spoke to the manager at the showroom where I bought our furniture and found out that he has a CHL, too, and disagrees with their policy. Corporate tells him it is for "employee safety". So the employees in the store fronts are not meant to be safe? At the warehouse, there is less than 100 square feet of customer accessible area that is covered by the 30.06 so the sign mostly applies to Haverty's warehouse employees. All that sign buys them is the ability to have an employee arrested for carrying rather than just being fired (they have a policy like most other companies against carrying on the job.) The situation makes no sense to me. When I showed up at the warehouse, I had to disarm to go into the tiny office to sign the pickup papers but could interact with their employees on the adjacent parking lot where they brought the furniture that I had purchased so the sign did nothing for employee safety there. Essentially, the one huge sign "protects" one woman behind a desk.
by chasfm11
Wed Jun 19, 2013 10:03 pm
Forum: General Texas CHL Discussion
Topic: Moral vs Ethical carry on 30.06
Replies: 47
Views: 6373

Re: Moral vs Ethical carry on 30.06

chrisdxn wrote:To me the 30.06 is the dumbest thing you can post on the outside of a private business.

I think I will go into business and make signs that say "ARMED ZONE - All employees are armed and trained"

Which sign would on the front door of your business would make you feel safer?
You would be surprised at how many people feel completely unsafe around the word "gun" let alone the real thing.

As a society, we have allowed a few who have an anti-gun obsession to take the moral "high ground". Like Sandy Hook, it is all about "protecting the children." Think I'm wrong? Why, then, is it so much of a problem getting OC in Texas? The sight of a gun makes too many people freak out.

There are quite a few hoplophobes. Then you add in all of those who use guns as a social or political agenda leverage point and you have a formidable group to deal with it Again, if you doubt what I'm saying, look around at the growing number of incidents where images of guns illicit strong reactions. A kid chewing a piece of pastry into a shape that looks remotely like a gun gets expelled from school.

I'm really glad to see the amount of push back that is occurring. Even though the counter-protesters in New Hampshire didn't handle it correctly (and one got arrested), the days of the anti-gun rallies going unchallenged are over, I hope. Until we do a better job of educating the general public that guns are not inherent devices of evil as the Liberal anti-gun types claim that they are, "safety" is going to be usurped by the groups like the Mayors Against Illegal Guns. Actually, they should call themselves "Mayors against all guns."

As to the original question, I'll smile as I carry past any sign that doesn't conform to the Texas Penal Code. I've got to follow it. They do, too. Generally, I don't do business with places that are anti-gun. Sometimes, avoiding them completely is not possible.

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